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Abe Lincoln was a founder of ours; President Elect Obama, you're no Abraham Lincoln.
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Posted on 11/17/2008 1:28:03 PM PST by publius321

"I was a bit disturbed to see this guy on 60 minutes last night, once again, bringing up Abraham Lincoln in an interview. He obviously wants to establish a specious connection with the great leader as he has brought Lincoln up on many other occasions and even campaigned with a banner bearing Lincoln’s image in front of the State House where Lincoln served. What makes it so appalling is that the primary issues for which Obama stands are in direct opposition to the father of the GOP.

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1 posted on 11/17/2008 1:28:03 PM PST by publius321
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To: publius321

Abe Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama wants to make more........


2 posted on 11/17/2008 1:33:17 PM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: publius321

Abraham Lincoln was not a “Founder”

He may be looked on as a “preserver”, but all the “Founders”
were long dead before his time.

Your other points are valid though.


3 posted on 11/17/2008 1:34:11 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: publius321
Obama has a lot in common with Lincoln. Neither puts much stock in the Constitution or the sacrifices of other when they interfere with their vision of the country or the role of the federal government.
4 posted on 11/17/2008 1:38:05 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Dan(9698); publius321
> Abraham Lincoln was not a “Founder”. He may be looked on as a “preserver”, but all the “Founders” were long dead before his time.

Probably just as well. I'm sure they would have been alternately fascinated and appalled at the state of the Union in 1861. And by the outcome of the War also... I don't doubt they would have had a lot of advice for President Lincoln.

Interesting topic for speculation.

5 posted on 11/17/2008 1:38:41 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: publius321

Historically-literate Americans laugh at the conceit of a run-of-the-mill Marxist-Leninist comparing himself (by inference) to Lincoln. But the unions got hold of the public schools two generations ago and have produced a dumbed down populace. That is one of Obama’s greatest strentghs.


6 posted on 11/17/2008 1:40:03 PM PST by RandyGH (Democrats--So far left they've left America)
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To: Dan(9698)

x16 was the founder of the federal leviathan


7 posted on 11/17/2008 1:40:55 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: publius321

Maybe if Obama grows a beard and wears a tophat, or whatever it’s called, there could be a resemblance./s


8 posted on 11/17/2008 1:41:09 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: RandyGH

...greatest strengths.” I can spell.


10 posted on 11/17/2008 1:42:38 PM PST by RandyGH (Democrats--So far left they've left America)
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To: publius321
Obama, you're no Abraham Lincoln....


Indeed...decidedly NOT!!!


11 posted on 11/17/2008 1:43:12 PM PST by LUV W (Now....on to 2012........Palin/Jindal)
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To: stainlessbanner

I think he is looking for his Sherman and Grant as we speak. I don’t think he will find them in the military though.


13 posted on 11/17/2008 1:43:52 PM PST by Howie
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To: RandyGH
But the unions got hold of the public schools two generations ago and have produced a dumbed down populace. That is one of Obama’s greatest strentghs.

"Ignorance is strength."

15 posted on 11/17/2008 1:59:46 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: publius321

I was driving behind a guy with Illinois plates the other day and the state motto “Land of Lincoln” gave me pause to consider how long it is before there is a movement to either replace “Land of Lincoln” with “Land of Obama” or change it to “Land of Lincoln and Obama”. Probably a lot sooner than Obama will prove himself worthy of being held in anything close to the esteem of Lincoln.


16 posted on 11/17/2008 2:05:10 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: publius321

You know what they say you can wish in one hand and sh*t in the other.


17 posted on 11/17/2008 2:05:13 PM PST by MES401067 (Lenin called them "useful idiots" I for one have no use for them.)
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To: publius321

Lincoln did nothing but kill Americans.

I reckon it’s something to look up to.


18 posted on 11/17/2008 2:07:00 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (Should have seen it in color.)
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To: Dan(9698)

Abraham Lincoln was not a “Founder”
He may be looked on as a “preserver”, but all the “Founders”
were long dead before his time.
Your other points are valid though.

I think the poster was refering to founding the GOP not the Nation..


19 posted on 11/17/2008 2:09:41 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Red Badger
Abe Lincoln freed the slaves.

Lincoln did not free even one slave. That is a hyped up myth.

20 posted on 11/17/2008 2:13:13 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: Dan(9698)

‘Abraham Lincoln was not a “Founder”’

Lincoln was one of the founders of the Reupublican Party in 1854, which is what the author probably meant.

The Republican Party was established for the purpose of abolishing slavery and returning to the principles the country was founded on (they used The Declaration of Independence as their guide, Lincoln called it their central idea.)

Lincoln was a proponent of individual rights and limited government. Obama is no Lincoln.


21 posted on 11/17/2008 2:14:46 PM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: Brookhaven
"Abraham Lincoln was not a “Founder"

This from the RNC web page,

The Republican Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists and individuals who believed that government should grant western lands to settlers free of charge. The first informal meeting of the party took place in Ripon, Wisconsin, a small town northwest of Milwaukee. The first official Republican meeting took place on July 6th, 1854 in Jackson, Michigan. The name "Republican" was chosen because it alluded to equality and reminded individuals of Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party. At the Jackson convention, the new party adopted a platform and nominated candidates for office in Michigan.

In 1856, the Republicans became a national party when John C. Fremont was nominated for President under the slogan: "Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men, Fremont." Even though they were considered a "third party" because the Democrats and Whigs represented the two-party system at the time, Fremont received 33% of the vote. Four years later, Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican to win the White House.

22 posted on 11/17/2008 2:28:17 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: publius321

Maybe 0bama wants to lead the Nation in a Civil War like Lincoln. I’m a fan of Lincoln, but let’s be honest, he did not heal the nation. He waged war on half of it and had no interest in ending the conflict on anything other than his terms.


23 posted on 11/17/2008 2:37:17 PM PST by Lou Budvis (0bama, Spread your own ------n wealth)
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To: GloriaJane

Abraha Lincoln learned to read by reading the bible. Obama spent his formative years in Indonesia with the Muslims.


24 posted on 11/17/2008 2:39:08 PM PST by tessalu
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To: Brookhaven
Lincoln was a proponent of individual rights and limited government.

Why that's just funny.

25 posted on 11/17/2008 2:50:54 PM PST by carton253 (So this is how liberty ends - with thunderous applause.)
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To: Dan(9698)

The author means a founder of the GOP which technically he wasn’t.


26 posted on 11/17/2008 4:37:27 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Dan(9698)

“Abraham Lincoln was not a “Founder”

He may be looked on as a “preserver”, but all the “Founders”
were long dead before his time.

Your other points are valid though.”


I am certainly aware that Lincoln was not a founding father - of this country. That would be pretty obvious. The “Ours” to which I was referring was the Republican Party. I was calling him a “founder” of the Republican Party. It was nothing before Lincoln. We are called “the Party of Lincoln.”

I never stopped to think when I formed that title that anyone would think I was contending Lincoln was a founding FATHER of the United States. Thanks for pointing that out.


27 posted on 11/17/2008 6:10:50 PM PST by publius321
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To: pepsi_junkie

You nailed it 3 months ago. Keep the hits coming!


28 posted on 02/13/2009 6:06:59 PM PST by melt (Someday they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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