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SCOTUS To Review Birth Certificate Case on December 5
The Patriot Room ^ | November 20, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:13:25 AM PST by Bill Dupray

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To: CE2949BB

The issue deserves a look-see at the only court authorized to assess the situation. I don’t think Thomas is saying or thinking one way or another, but just that the court should at least look at it.


21 posted on 11/20/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by swatter
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To: Clump

This is the real problem.

It should be very easy for the supremes to say ok, everyone produce your birth certificates and lets get on with it. This is a no brainer. Its easy. Its a formality.

But what happens if they know or even suspect or smell a problem. ie what happens if they believe a ruling to require candidates to produce birth certificates would set off a firestorm.

Why? Because Obama doesn’t have the documtation.

What happens if the real problem is that Obama doesn’t have the docs to prove he’s a “natural born citizen”

That, in fact, the documents prove otherwise.


22 posted on 11/20/2008 8:30:20 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
Is Obama above the law?

"There is no law that will stop him (Obama) from becoming president!" - Michelle Obama

23 posted on 11/20/2008 8:32:05 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Bill Dupray

It is in the best interest of this country for the case to be heard by the Supremes, regardless of whether he is, or is not, eligible.

If he is, then that puts paid to all of the other suits, and we can all move along to obfuscating his nefarious plans for the next 4 years, while seeking a suitable contender for the White House in 2012.

If he isn’t, then the Constitution of the United States, which is the supreme law of this land, needs to be upheld and obeyed. If his (vastly reduced in number at that point - Americans don’t like to be had!) supporters take to the streets, then so be it. They will fight, they will be subdued in due course, and America will survive and move on.

The upshot of it is, no party will dare to nominate another candidate who has not been thoroughly vetted, no matter how good of a game he talks, plus the media will be exposed again for the sham that it has become.

It’s a no win situation for the case not to be heard, and a no lose for it to be heard.


24 posted on 11/20/2008 8:33:11 AM PST by VRWCer (Sarah Palin - the embodiment of the spirit and true grit upon which this great country was founded.)
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To: Vaquero

But I don’t see the SCOTUS wanting to be the ones to cause Civil War II.

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The implications are on the order of the Nixon knock out.

Here’s the thing. This puppy is not going away. So they either do it now when its relatively easy to face the consequences or later when its not.

You understand Obama should have the documentation. The Arnold would be running for president and winning if he had the documentation. But he doesn’t have the docs. So he doesn’t run.


25 posted on 11/20/2008 8:36:36 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: nmh

I don’t get it. I always thought that if one of your parents were American, you were automatically an American no matter where you were born. Am I wrong?


26 posted on 11/20/2008 8:39:02 AM PST by DejaJude (Obama, the "Leader Dearest" of the nanny state.)
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To: TruthWillWin

Donofrios case argues that Obama is not a natural born citizen because his father was not an American. To Donofrio, natural born means that both parents are American and the child was born in the US. Obama is an American citizen... just not natural born citizen...even thought he was born in Hawaii (supposedly). He thinks that the birth certificate question is a ruse. He believes that the founding fathers mandated that both parents be born in the US and the child be born in the US to become natural born citizen. On Obamas website, he admits that his father was a British subject and he too was british. We’ll see.


27 posted on 11/20/2008 8:39:16 AM PST by Mashood
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To: Bill Dupray
December 6 headline: Supreme Court denies certiorari for Obama birth certificate case.
28 posted on 11/20/2008 8:39:48 AM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: Safrguns
Contrary to Internet rumor that Justice Souter had ordered Barack Obama to provide the vault copy of his birth certificate, the Court merely set December 1, 2008 as the date by which the respondents--Obama, the Democratic National Committee and Federal Election Commission--were to respond to Berg's petition if they chose to do so at all. Yesterday's filing, which appeared on the docket this afternoon, shows that the respondents have waived their right to respond.

I hope that answers your question.

29 posted on 11/20/2008 8:40:21 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Bill Dupray

I just don’t get why this hasn’t been resolved LONG ago...it doesn’t make sense that the Dems would let this rise to the level of the Supreme Court? Crazy....


30 posted on 11/20/2008 8:41:12 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: DejaJude

It’s not being an American that is questioned...it is the question between natural born and naturalized.


31 posted on 11/20/2008 8:41:16 AM PST by imfrmdixie
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To: Bill Dupray

I have listened to Leo Donofrio from NJ for the last two nights on Prarie Radio and Lam Lamphere. If they made a movie about this (Hollywood would never touch it) it would be incredible. It is the most amazing story no one knows about. Little people stepped in as Leo was getting jerked around by a corrupt clerk at SCOTUS screwing with his filing.

Leo is a super guy and a real patriot.

Go to his web site at www.blogspot.org/naturalborncitizen?

You can learn what is going on. Everyone should lay off the stupid vanity posts, grandpa’s corn fritters, Rush talking about the Steelers, prayer threads for Obama and other nonsense. Our freedom hangs by a thread. We have had a coup. The financial markets have been manipulated for profit by shorts using bear raids and to gain control of the country.

Our conservative talk show “heroes” are AWOL chickens. Thank God for the Internet radio people like Prarie Radio, Lan and Free Republic when it is not used for inanities like granny’s pumpkin pie receipe or snide comments by negative people.

Leo and his case may be the only thing standing in the way of tyranny by two political parties owned by ?? and a MSM owned by other people who care little about America.

Leo’s case does NOT need a birth certificate but it is backup in his case in case his first or second claim fails. leo built layers in his case.

Leo has it nailed based on The Constitution. It is obvious and there is no ambiguity. Justice Thomas would not have moved it along unless Leo’s case was solid. I feel they will have a hard time turning this away. The Framers entrusted SCOTUS as almost the last defense against tyranny and their shield and sword is the Constitution. Leo’s case lays it all out. It truly is amazing. A David and Golith story.


32 posted on 11/20/2008 8:42:24 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Bill Dupray
I have hopes they'll actually implement and protect the law of the land. The requirements for POTUS are within the supreme law of the land, the US Constitution. Any civil war may well result from SCOTUS and the other government branches continued abrogation and usurping of this document.

Let's see how the US government lines up against these foundational laws:

1) The legislative branch creates laws.

2) The executive branch implements the laws. There are provisions for some leeway during times of war, via the War Powers Act. This requires a declaration of war, not in effect.

3) The judicial branch judges cases using the law. Judges were _never_ authorized to create law _out_of_thin_air_ any more than to ignore lawful laws in their decisions. The key principle in the previous statement is that a case brought before the courts, for which there is no covering law, must be ruled simply NO jurisdiction and dropped, duh.

Now, SCOTUS would surely be aware of the US Constitution and it's _very_ lawful law pertaining to the citizenship requirements for a president. They are legal bound to uphold the law, not worry about the ramifications, ie., the nut left riots which may ensue.

Good day.

33 posted on 11/20/2008 8:42:36 AM PST by veracious
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To: al_c

Obama is just another Bill Clinton. Both are narcissitic.


34 posted on 11/20/2008 8:44:44 AM PST by Buddygirl
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To: Frantzie
www.blogspot.org/naturalborncitizen?

Not a good path.

35 posted on 11/20/2008 8:46:11 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/


36 posted on 11/20/2008 8:48:09 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Vaquero

This is a Constitutional Crisis ... as much as they want to it may prove difficult to sweep this away ... imagine sweeping a 300 pound elephant under the rug ... if they let it go then the Republicans will run ARNOLD next time


37 posted on 11/20/2008 8:49:39 AM PST by ignorancerunsrampant
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To: TruthWillWin
Senator McCain was born to American parents when his father was in the military, somewhere around the Panama Canal Zone. That makes him a US Citizen.

My brother and his wife had a son when they were in France (Army) and that son is an American citizen. Think of all the military kids born to American military personnel while out of the country. An American father and American mother - their children are American citizens.

38 posted on 11/20/2008 8:49:40 AM PST by Texagirl4W (It's the ten commandments, not the ten suggestions !!!!!)
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To: Bill Dupray

I think this story is really going somewhere. I also think that the API is a great source of news and that my new African email buddy is going to send me $20 million as soon as I mail him $5k for shipping.


39 posted on 11/20/2008 8:50:17 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Vaquero

SCOTUS job is to protect The Constitution no matter what. Obama and the DNC caused this fraud. McCain and the GOP do not get off either. I think both are owned by someone named George.

www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/


40 posted on 11/20/2008 8:50:28 AM PST by Frantzie
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