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To: Invisigoth

It’s hard to imagine why anyone would choose to be many things that are deviations of the norm. Do people choose to be pedophiles? Arsonists? Fetishists? It’s hard to know if it’s genetic (could well be, but I’m not convinced) however, if it’s not it doesn’t mean it was a conscious choice, as in, they woke up one day and said, “Hey, I think I would rather have relations with someone the same sex as I am!).
Previous to our PC world it was considered a mental illness of sorts, and I’m sure there were various theories on why someone would end up this way. Now, I doubt we can even study it as the wrath of the homosexual rights groups would come down on your head.
If it’s genetic, is it ok with homosexuals if couples abort babies because they carry the gene to be homosexual? I would love to know the answer to that one.


4 posted on 11/24/2008 9:01:16 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea
Probably both, but the fact is, in the end the behavior is chosen. I should store the boilerplate for this, but here goes again...

I have a relative who is a 35-years dry alcoholic. Every day he has to make a decision...does he do the right thing in God's eyes that will produce the best possible future for him, or does he do what his body tells him feels good, and suffer the after-effects and consequences of his bad behavior? Every day he must choose, no matter what the behavior stems from.

Let us suppose for a moment that alchololism has a genetic component, and some people are more prone to experiencing the problem. So what? I would never think of walking up to someone whom I knew was an alcoholic and saying, "Hey, you know what? God made you just the way He wants you to be, and you can't help yourself to prevent this behavior that feels good to you! Here, drink up! Let me buy you a beer!" But that is exactly what the Libs want all of us to do in the case of this disability...smile and rubber-stamp the bad behavior as being just fine.

I have known probably five homosexual men and a couple of women in my life, and without exception they were smart, kind people trying to do the best they could. They were also, every one, from homes where I could see either emotionally absent or overbearing authoritarian fathers. And every one of them was, at some time in their history, recruited.

What is more, in each case, I could chart for you how the "lifestyle" (that's "sin" to you and me) gradually enveloped them and took them completely. They each began as well-rounded people: athletes, singers, scholars, teachers and more. But over time, what they became was "gay"...it permeated every aspect of their lives, became their sole and central point, with no other factor given any real weight. It is the ultimate in narcissism, because the person becomes more important than anyone else on the planet. It is his or her feelings that matter more than friends, relatives or society.

As everyone who has seen this knows, it ultimately becomes required for everyone around the homosexual to endorse their choice or be cast out into the night, because no disagreement with their behavior will be tolerated. I have lost some good acquaintances because I would not bow down and pronounce what they did as good.

If I had a good friend who thought that sticking their face in a glass furnace sounded like a really fun time, I would have to warn them that the after affects could kill them. If I had a friend who was trying to drive their car off a cliff, I would be honor bound to try and prevent it...even if they intended to.

Suppose that I am a vegetarian, and I stand on a soapbox in front of an Outback Steak House, and announce the following:

You probably don't want to hear this, but what you are doing is morally wrong. It is insensitive of you to put your own desires ahead of all the damage that your own lusts creates all around you. Firstly, you endanger your own bodies with behavior that is scientifically shown to put you at great risk of several diseases, risking even your own deaths! Secondly, the money that you are costing the medical insurance industry because of your own self-driven choices could be used to help protect the health of thousands of other people. Thirdly, by giving in to the desires of your flesh, you are causing worry and grief to those around you who care about you! And fourthly, you are in the end the only one who can prevent these bad choices in your life, because you can, at any time, decide to stop behaving irresponsibly! For your own moral good, for your health, and for your families and friends, I plead with you to reconsider what you are doing!"

The news media would portray you as "a bright, concerned individual, unafraid to take an unpopular position on a controversial subject, who bravely has stood up to warn those about him about their moral obligations to everyone around them, and the dangers of their own self-centered behavior."

Now, instead you are an evangelical Christian, standing outside of a gay bar. Go and repeat the previous paragraph.

That's right...you are tarred and feathered in the media as "a small-mided, self-centered Bible-thumping conservative who wants to take away the natural rights of others, cruelly limiting their choices and brutally committing hate-speech that belittles and condemns them."

It is usually the Liberals who wail about their goddess "Tolerance" who are first in line to throw stones when you won't tolerate the things THEY hold dear. I wish that all the people who are standing line to tell us what we can eat, where we can smoke, what firearms we are allowed to protect ourselves with and how much of our pie we should give to others were half as ready to hear what we think.

67 posted on 11/24/2008 9:53:57 AM PST by 50sDad (-/\/\/\- Obama's coming; be a Resistor!)
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