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Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae(obama birth in Kenya)
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae ^ | Oct 27, 2008 | Bishop Ron McRae

Posted on 11/29/2008 7:48:00 PM PST by ckilmer

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This affidavit has a lot on interesting info. However here is the relavant line:

Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States.

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1 posted on 11/29/2008 7:48:00 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

bump!


2 posted on 11/29/2008 7:49:42 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: ckilmer

bump


3 posted on 11/29/2008 7:50:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: ckilmer

We can all expect this to be national top story news tomorrow. /s


4 posted on 11/29/2008 7:53:47 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ckilmer

And another bump.


5 posted on 11/29/2008 7:54:58 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: ckilmer

bttt


6 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:15 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: Jet Jaguar

bumpdity bump


7 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:20 PM PST by mia
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To: Jet Jaguar

The connection to Odinga and campaign contributions are just as troubling. The same people who donated to him surely donated to Obamanazi.


8 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:45 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: ckilmer

Boom chaka laka!


9 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:51 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: ckilmer

Come to think of it, so what if he were born in Kenya? The Constitution is routinely violated and abrogated by everyone these days, who cares if there’s an obsolete provision, written by white slave owners, about natural born citizenship in there somewhere? It’s no big deal, none of the rest is.


10 posted on 11/29/2008 7:55:57 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ckilmer

Thanks bump.


11 posted on 11/29/2008 7:56:16 PM PST by SouthTexas (Remember, it took a Jimmy Carter to bring us a Ronald Reagan!)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

12 posted on 11/29/2008 7:56:48 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: ckilmer

Well saying that it common knowledge, and actually being there for the birth are two different things. Doesn’t matter what the truth is, Obama will be President and the Congress will pass some exemption for him.


13 posted on 11/29/2008 7:59:18 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No.)
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To: ckilmer

The left will say: She’s old and confused and doesn’t remember which Obama was born in Kenya....


14 posted on 11/29/2008 7:59:49 PM PST by freebilly
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“...Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that she
was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya...”


15 posted on 11/29/2008 8:00:33 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: ckilmer

bookmark


16 posted on 11/29/2008 8:01:50 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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Well saying that it common knowledge, and actually being there for the birth are two different things. Doesn’t matter what the truth is, Obama will be President and the Congress will pass some exemption for him.

.................

Here is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
17 posted on 11/29/2008 8:01:51 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: coloradan
I am hoping that you forgot the </sarcasm

Otherwise, what are you doing here so ignorant of this country.

We are a country of laws of which the US CONSTITUTION is the highest level. The US Supreme Court only function is to determine if a law passed by congress is CONSTITUTIONAL or not.

When they rule otherwise, and they do a lot, they are in violation of their oaths.

18 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:38 PM PST by BillT (Socialism = Equal Poverty for ALL)
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To: ckilmer

bookmarked for later.


19 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:50 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: ckilmer

Why does it say Feb 2010 at the end?


20 posted on 11/29/2008 8:02:51 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: ckilmer

ping!


21 posted on 11/29/2008 8:03:53 PM PST by Op-Head
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To: MississippiMan

Amen. Boom chaka laka, brother.


22 posted on 11/29/2008 8:04:00 PM PST by GBA
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To: ckilmer

Forward this on to National Review Online!


23 posted on 11/29/2008 8:04:37 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Excuse my dumbness. I see why it says that. I got all excited. lease forgive.


24 posted on 11/29/2008 8:04:44 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: ckilmer

Thank you.


25 posted on 11/29/2008 8:08:28 PM PST by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: freebilly
I understand attempts to discredit him, but we are all missing the point.

Obama and his money men bought the election.

For the first time, the Office of President of the United States was purchased.

I saw the media fall in line. I thought their support was ideological, but I was wrong.

It was the money.

I doubt we can recover.

26 posted on 11/29/2008 8:08:29 PM PST by highpockets
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To: ckilmer

Sudan politicians claim stake in Obama heritage
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By Andrew Heavens

KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudanese politicians claimed Barack Obama as one of their own on Saturday as they belatedly celebrated his election as U.S. president, hailing his family roots in their country.

Much has been made of Obama’s father’s origins in Kenya. But he acknowledged his distant Sudanese roots in his autobiography ‘Dreams From My Father’.

“His father came from the Luo (tribe), who are from the Nile. The Luo originally moved from Sudan to Kenya,” said Yasir Arman, a senior member of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement, former southern rebels who are now in a coalition government with the north.

Hundreds of SPLM supporters crammed into their headquarters for a belated party marking Obama’s victory.

Many held up banners marked ‘New Sudan Yes We Can’ - a message that merged an SPLM slogan with Obama’s rallying cry.

Arman said members were inspired by Obama’s election as the United States’ first black president.

“It is giving a message to our society that Sudan can do the same, that Sudan can recognize its own diversity,” he said.

“We hope he will be able to give more attention to all of Africa, not just Sudan.”

The United States has had a troubled relationship with Sudan’s Khartoum-based government. It has imposed trade sanctions on Khartoum, included it on its list of state sponsors of terrorism, and accused northern troops and militias of committing genocide in the Darfur conflict.

The south has been exempted from most of the sanctions.

The SPLM fought the north for more than 20 years in a conflict that pitted the Islamist Khartoum government against mainly Christian and animist rebels. The war ended with a 2005 peace agreement.

(Editing by Angus MacSwan)

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4AS2F120081129


27 posted on 11/29/2008 8:09:46 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador said yes.

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. Further, here is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.

In any case the supreme court--at Justice Thomas instigation-- is taking up the issue Dec 5
28 posted on 11/29/2008 8:11:33 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
I am as supportive of Obama being exposed as anyone else, but come on team conservative. We have got to get our act together and make sure all i’s are dotted, and t’s crossed.

This kind of rant about the Muslim stuff is unacceptable in an affidavit. That, as appalling as it is, is NOT a crime nor the subject of this case. Further, it will serve to add credence that this case is submitted by a bunch of crackpot extremist right wingers.

Stick to the facts.

One other defect I see in this is that 2 exhibits are marked ‘6’. This is sloppy and again makes this case look like its amateurish and anything but serious. Let's use some of those funds Berg collected from supporters on an editor for this kind of statement, instead of a 3rd grader.

I hate to be harsh, I sincerely want to win. I don't want the MSM to pick it up and focus on the sideshow of defects and irrelevant rants within the case while continuing to ignore the salient points (of which there appears to be no answer).

Get it together, and take the fight to them.

29 posted on 11/29/2008 8:13:46 PM PST by AZGunSlinger
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To: LucyT

Ping and my blood ran cold.


31 posted on 11/29/2008 8:15:35 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: ckilmer
His religious 'affiliation' (I don't think he actually believes in or fears God) is not the issue. His actual birth and citizenship by natural birth is the issue.

Barack Obama can rot in Hell claiming to be a Muslim or a christian ... that is between mister Obama and God. BUT his fraudulent claim of US citizenship after giving up his British citizenship, etc. IS my damned business because he is trying to obtain the job of president of MY REPUBLIC and MY CONSTITUTION defines the simple eligibility requirements which he has yet to provide.

I, as one of We The People, demand this bastard produce the proof that he is eligible and not merely forging his way as an affirmative action candidate. I've written to the Supreme Court and am in the process of demanding that MY ELECTED Senate and House Representatives act on the behalf of me as a We The People to assure this lying prick from Chicago criminal politics produce absolute proof of his eligibility.

32 posted on 11/29/2008 8:17:01 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ckilmer

Honestly, I’ve seen your post 100 times. The bottom line is that none of those conversations are under oath therfore not of use in a legal proceeding. Although they are interesting, they prove nothing.


33 posted on 11/29/2008 8:17:11 PM PST by Doug TX
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"Barack Obama with his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, in Africa in 2004. Courtesy of the Obama family" - Chicgo Suntimes, published 8/16/06.

The real Madelyn Dunham (with Stanley Dunham and Barry) below:


34 posted on 11/29/2008 8:17:45 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: ckilmer

Some brave people need to reveal the truth and stop this insanity. I pray that with God’s help it will happen.


35 posted on 11/29/2008 8:20:33 PM PST by RDTF (BO smells and eventually people do what's necessary to avoid it)
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"Barack Obama with his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, in Africa in 2004. Courtesy of the Obama family" - Chicgo Suntimes, published 8/16/06.

So, how old was Barry O in this picture with his paternal grandmother? I don't think it could possibly have been just four years ago.
36 posted on 11/29/2008 8:21:44 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ckilmer

Obama’s response to Philip Berg’s Writ of Certiorari is due December 1st. I can just imagine the type of response Obama’s defense team will give.


37 posted on 11/29/2008 8:21:50 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: ckilmer

And still what do we hear from so-called reporters in the US? Crickets chirping. So much information is out there. Yet the vast majority of The Sheeple know nothing about the BC issue. Some that know don’t care. They know nothing of the Constitution, thanks to the teacher’s unions poisoning the minds of children for decades.

Just how many web news articles does it take before someone in the MSM does even one soft ball story on this for The Sheeple to read or hear about? There are hundreds of articles, yet the MSM, the President, all Gov’t officials, and many others remain silent on this issue.

They are petrified of what crisis will erupt if the truth is known and the rule of law is upheld.

Is there ONE Supreme Court Judge who will stand up for America? Will one of them say “damn the consequences and full speed ahead” to uphold the Constitution?


38 posted on 11/29/2008 8:22:18 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built.." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: highpockets
For the first time, the Office of President of the United States was purchased.

It hasn't been purchased yet. Electors have yet to vote, that vote has yet to be certified, and the Oath Of Office has yet to be taken. There are Constitutional provisions for a President-Elect who fails to qualify. We must see to it, that every avenue is pursued, to hold Barack Obama to account. Should he provide incontrovertible evidence that he is indeed qualified, we should stand down on this issue, but not until then.

39 posted on 11/29/2008 8:22:32 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Doug TX

The bishop’s affidavit is under oath. But it proves nothing. Nor do the statements of the grandmother or the siblings. Its just the pattern.


40 posted on 11/29/2008 8:23:15 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

saved


41 posted on 11/29/2008 8:27:00 PM PST by gunnyg
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To: aruanan
The point is the caption for the first photo referencing the African Granny Dunham, not the high school photo. Not implying anything, just found it amusing how little the Chicago Suntimes knows about That One and his family.
42 posted on 11/29/2008 8:28:09 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End

Then again, his whole life is so shrouded in such a fog of obfuscation, secrecy and confusion, who knows anything?


43 posted on 11/29/2008 8:30:28 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: ckilmer; autumnraine; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; ...
Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States.

Thank you autumnraine.

Ping.

44 posted on 11/29/2008 8:31:10 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: AZGunSlinger

In a lawsuit anything that can be used for the purpose of impeaching the credibility (or veracity) of a witness is admissable. It might be legally but not logically relevant. His religion is not relevant to Article 2, but he has made it clear he’s a Christian.
So here’s a Holy Man, a bishop, sworn, sayingt he’s a fuzzy muzzie. It’s something like trying to pass off a birth certificate as genuine, then saying, `No good? Oh never mind—here’s a better one. No? OK, try this one.
I can see your point but enquiring minds might want to know ... work with us a little bit.


45 posted on 11/29/2008 8:31:15 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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Many thanks, LucyT

Ping.


47 posted on 11/29/2008 8:43:27 PM PST by Iowan
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To: ckilmer

To all of you. Do you really not see that this is the kind of thing that gives those of us on the right absolutely NO credibility? The state of Hawaii has issued the authentication of Obama’s Hawaiian birth. Obama has fulfilled the eligibility requirements in the eyes of the law. Period. Everyone that I talk to says that this just goes to show how fractured and dysfunctional our side has become. Get grounded. Get real. And get ready for the next election by being smart sound and logical. A house divided will fall.


48 posted on 11/29/2008 8:45:51 PM PST by Myrrh123
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To: apocalypto

ping for reference


49 posted on 11/29/2008 8:47:56 PM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: VigilantAmerican

ping to even more!


50 posted on 11/29/2008 8:50:49 PM PST by jacquej
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