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VIRGINIA CONSTITUTIONAL MILITIA RE-FORMING RANKS
Virginia Militia Yahoo Groups ^ | 29 Dec 2008 | Salvavida

Posted on 12/29/2008 6:40:32 PM PST by Salvavida

HEAR YE, HEAR YE! It is announced this 29th day of December, in the Year of our Lord 2008, that the Virginia Militia is hereby re-forming in preparation to ensure the defense of the U.S. Constitution, as envisioned by the founding fathers, and as provided for by the Constitution of the United States of America.

All qualified able-bodied men are asked to repair with haste to the following site, register, and ask for membership by the moderators:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/virginiamilitia/

Those not qualified as prescribed by law, but nonetheless wish to assist in dispensing equally important duties in support as a “friend of the Virginia Militia”, are asked to join also.

All recipients of this message are asked to forward this notice to all patriotic Americans residing in Old Dominion. Those requiring more information on what a lawful militia is, may visit the following site:

http://www.constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm

New joins will be given instructions by the moderators. Likewise, any questions may be directed to the moderators.

(Excerpt) Read more at groups.yahoo.com ...


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1 posted on 12/29/2008 6:40:32 PM PST by Salvavida
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To: Salvavida

Ping and thanks for posting


2 posted on 12/29/2008 6:42:25 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Salvavida

Did Tim Kaine sign off on this?


3 posted on 12/29/2008 6:48:08 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Mojave

Absolutely NOT.


4 posted on 12/29/2008 6:50:45 PM PST by Salvavida (Restoring the U.S.A. starts with filling the empty pew at a local Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Good for you guys. This is what America needs: grass roots conservatives taking back their land.

Start by taking over your cities and counties.


5 posted on 12/29/2008 6:57:16 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Salvavida

Will joining get my family killed or our house burned down by the feds?

Had to ask.....


6 posted on 12/29/2008 6:59:50 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Salvavida

Perhaps y’all should read the Constitution. Specifically Article 1 Section 8 ...

“reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”

Congress has not prescribed a discipline (for members of the unorganized militia, which is what you are under federal law [10 USC 311]), nor has the Commonwealth of Virginia appointed your officers. And anyone who’s out there giving themselves ranks and titles ain’t worth a bucket of warm spit.

While your members may meet the criteria prescribed in 10 US 311 for membership in the federal unorganized militia, this group has no legal standing. Zip.

That said, I suggest you read up on what Ben Franklin did in Pennsylvania in 1747 when faced with a similar problem (Association for Defense). http://www.librarycompany.org/BFWriter/images/large/5.11.jpg

Whatever you call it, it’s not a legal militia. If’n you want to make it more than a bunch of yokel’s with guns, more power to you. That takes a bit of effort, not just cammies and an AR.


7 posted on 12/29/2008 7:00:57 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: KoRn

America just elected “the new Lincoln”.

Place your bets.


8 posted on 12/29/2008 7:01:19 PM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: KoRn

Fair question.

Our forefathers had similar concerns.

Enough said.


9 posted on 12/29/2008 7:03:09 PM PST by Salvavida (Restoring the U.S.A. starts with filling the empty pew at a local Bible-believing church.)
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To: RKV

I assure you dear sir, the Constitution was well read. This isn’t federal.

And this State has done nothing with the unorganized militia. So we are arming and recruiting for votes. No one is “appointing” themselves officers. We need votes, hence, “friends of the militia”.

It’s the opposite of apathy.


10 posted on 12/29/2008 7:25:08 PM PST by Salvavida (Restoring the U.S.A. starts with filling the empty pew at a local Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida
Make it easy for the new Homeland Security Force to know who to round up.
11 posted on 12/29/2008 7:26:21 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Salvavida

Just got this from the poster of this “article.”

“If you take the Democratic interpretation, go ahead. But I won’t follow. Re-read it s l o w l y. You just pointed out the parts applying while the militia is called up for federal service.

It is left up to the States. Since this State hasn’t done anything with the unorganized militia, the effort is grassroots.

And we intend to vote.”

Great pardner. Vote all damn day long. That said, the current Virginia Constitution says damn little about the militia. Article 13 (to be specific) doesn’t give you much to go on. Maybe there is some statutory help that a member of the Virginia Bar (which I am not) can work out for you. As for taking the “Democratic” line I don’t, which is why I dropped you the hint about what Ben Franklin did. Good luck to you. You’re going to need it because your COMSEC is non-existent. Hope you enjoy making the acquaintance of all the nice FBI agents who’ll be going to your meetings. That’s all I’m gonna say on an open channel. Run into any members named Horiuchi, then you better get your self out of the line of fire.


12 posted on 12/29/2008 7:27:00 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yep.


13 posted on 12/29/2008 7:27:52 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Do you have a link to this document in readable form? I would love to read up on this. The one you posted is very difficult, at best, to make out.
Thanks.


14 posted on 12/29/2008 7:29:06 PM PST by mark3681
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To: mark3681

What I did with it was to open it up in photoshop. Any other image editing tool should do the trick. Simply put, the Quakers in charge of Pennsylvania immediately prior to the French and Indian War didn’t do the job of protecting the citizens. Franklin and others organized a militia.


15 posted on 12/29/2008 7:32:18 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

I just stand on what my forefathers gave me. And I don’t need someone to hold my hand and codify whether or not this militia can recruit members. Read Constitutional Homeland Security.

We have no mistrust of the FBI, or any other government agency/entity. They are welcome, and we will specifically invite them, and encourage them to join.

It’s the secretive militias that I don’t trust.


16 posted on 12/29/2008 7:32:32 PM PST by Salvavida (Restoring the U.S.A. starts with filling the empty pew at a local Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Good luck with that.


17 posted on 12/29/2008 7:34:06 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Thanks. I’ll dig into it.


18 posted on 12/29/2008 7:35:21 PM PST by mark3681
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To: RKV

Your tag line is inocrrect. Having guns means nothing.

He who has the gold makes the rules.

We have no gold but we have all kinds of guns and look where we are.

You have just made the argument yourself, against your own tagline.

Interesting, huh.


19 posted on 12/29/2008 9:13:57 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin
For several years, while on an annual trip to participate in a convention in a nearby resort area I carried a 1/4 ounce gold coin in my back pocket. I would have fun with it. When paying for food and gas, I would ask the cashier if they would accept “Federal Reserve Notes”. Most would not, except of course when I showed them one. Sometimes, after being turned down with that question, I would ask the cashier if I could pay with gold. The looks I would get with that question.

Only once did a store owner give me a decent answer. The owner of an frozen custard place reluctantly declined to accept gold, because he “could not make proper change”.

All of this is in good fun, but it proves a point in spades. Americans are well trained to only think of the worthless paper we have as being real “money”.

Therefore: He who prints the money and enforces legal tender laws makes the rules.

20 posted on 12/29/2008 9:30:40 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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