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To: FreedomNotSafety
They (Communist Chinese) work for nearly free to make and sell goods to us far cheaper than we can make them for ourselves thus enabling us to enjoy a higher standard of living.

Standard of living? You looked around lately?

Countless have and are losing their jobs, homes, retirements, saving, investments..

You can't send hundreds of thousands of our jobs and industries overseas to China and India, and then allow into the U.S. tens of millions of low wage illegal workers.

This is national suicide.

The Chicoms took all those jobs because they have more uneducated and unskilled workers than we do. What we do have are jobs for educated and skilled workers.

lol...Then why in hell do people like Bush continue to wave through tens of millions of uneducated, illegal workers? Are all these illegal aliens senior scientist and engineers?

If all of you anti-free trade advocates want to compete for the bottom of the barrel manufacturing jobs that bring little value because it requires no skill or education..have at it. Just don't require me to pay $10 for a pair of socks.

Yes, I am anti free trade bullsh*t, you on the other hand are a Communist Chinese apologist.

I owned a manufacturing company in Ohio. I had workers vastly overpaid at minimum wage and I had some I could barely keep at $25/hr.

You had? You owned? You think 25 bucks an hour is good money in today's America? A decent machinist should be making 2 or 3 times that amount. Where you been?

You tell me. How much should an illiterate pot smoking unexperienced unskilled 18 year old make?

You mean inexperienced?

You babble on about how stupid and lazy Ohio workers are, yet you have difficulty spelling simple words. LOL!

Does he have an American birthright to make more than his Chinese counterpart? Should I be forced to buy the goods he produces?

No, you should stick to purchasing Communist Chinese goods. Better yet, fire all of those allegedly working for you, and find yourself some Communist Chinese that will work for 1980s wages.

My company created 8 good paying jobs when we purchased a cheap Chinese made machine tool to use in our tool making shop.

lol...You should move to Red China.

My workers threatened to quit if we bought the machine but relented when they saw we added jobs because of it.

Hmmm..Why would they quit? Because of where a machine came from? What kind of BS is this? Your workers were happy because *you* hired others? lol...

Do you seek to destroy that type of flexibility and creativity? I have lived it and I have seen, experienced, and heard the stories of US manufacturing. The feather bedding, the stealing, the laziness, the union workers he could not be fired no matter what they did. Free trade is the only thing that keeps that type of behavior in check.

You need to move to Communist China and get some of that hard working low wage Communist, peasant labor. You'll love it there.

Oh, and Ohio's economy is in a ditch. You're not kidding anyone with all this BS.

109 posted on 01/03/2009 7:22:27 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

If you will consolte a dictionary you will find my usage of “unexperienced” to be acceptable. I think my writing is clear enough for you to answer my question, how much should this unexperienced worker make?

So a machinist should make 3 times $25/hour? That would be about $156,000 per year. And that get’s us “decent”?


110 posted on 01/04/2009 6:22:23 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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