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To: PurpleMountains

How much longer can they sell Darwinism?

Pretty much as long as logic and good sense remain at least a portion of the thinking capacity of Americans and others.

Besides which, the price is right. It’s kinda like the cost of believing that the Earth is not flat, and that it goes around the sun.


6 posted on 01/04/2009 5:48:00 AM PST by NicknamedBob (If you translate Pi into base 43 notation, it will contain this statement.)
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To: NicknamedBob
Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty.

Facts are the world’s data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away while scientists debate rival theories for explaining them. Einstein’s theory of gravitation replaced Newton’s, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air pending the outcome. And human beings evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin’s proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered.

[...] Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science, “fact” can only mean “confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.” I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.

Stephen Jay Gould, “Hen’s Teeth and Horse’s Toes”

30 posted on 01/04/2009 6:13:06 AM PST by StatenIsland (The '08 Election: It's about the survival of our country, not making a point...)
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To: NicknamedBob
Great reply.

You will often find among Creationists that they also have other equally invalid beliefs not supported by any evidence, including...

Geocentricism (and you probably thought you were being sarcastic)

HIV-AIDS denial

Islamic jihad = terrorists denial

belief in UFO’s.

Humans living contemporaneously with dinosaurs.

and others equally as amusing.

69 posted on 01/04/2009 7:33:20 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: NicknamedBob
It’s kinda like the cost of believing that the Earth is not flat, and that it goes around the sun.

Very well said!

It's enough for me to know that Judeo-Christianity holds the key to human survival any place, anytime. When dealing with people psychology, any plan for that that works as well as Judeo-Christianity has performed over the past 2,000 years, all considered -- well, that alone is proof of God. As far as I'm concerned, our spiritual world is as dog-eat-dog as the natural world, and the root of Darwinism in the natural world is: Adapt or perish.

Human civilization on this planet shows pretty clearly that God's law is what our spirits and values must adapt to in order to thrive and survive. There's a parallel with the way people treat each other and live together in societies. Peoples adapt to the law of God, or live in strife until they perish.

584 posted on 01/05/2009 7:35:05 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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