Posted on 01/12/2009 8:40:09 PM PST by Freefreq
Didn’t the Messiah say we needed transparency in our Government?
Or was that Nancy?
Whatever Obama is hiding is probably inconsistent with his much-vaunted public “biography” and, perhaps, his private understanding of who he really is. In brief sympathetic moments, I believe that he really doesn't fully know his early childhood background because he has been told so many different stories by relatives.
lincoln’s second term was short, too.
Obama will never need to divulge his bc...the feds can't coerce a state govt to do so....
You said — “I have been reading all over the net tonight and I don’t see the Birth Certificate issue dying anytime soon.”
You’re right; it’s just like the Kennedy assassination conspiracies, too. They never die either. I believe it’s the same way here, too. I, personally and definitely, do not believe the Warren Commission on the matter, either. But, at this point, I won’t follow those conspiracies, even though I was there at that time he was shot. It’s finished as far as I’m concerned as I don’t figure that we’ll ever know anything about this, for sure. It’s history.
So, yes..., this will continue along just like the Kennedy assassination conspiracies, do, too...
There is another rationale that I use in thinking about this Obama Qualification issue, too. I mentioned it in another thread, so I’ll simply copy the reasoning here...
The article said — “At this moment in history, one man has the power to stop this monumental fraud and uphold the Constitution.”
Well, I disagree with the choice of the “one man” that they are talking about. I do think that there *is* — definitely — “one man” who does have the power and the ability to stop any kind of violation of the Constitutional requirements for the office of President of the United States — and who is *sworn* by his official duties to uphold that same Constitution.
That one man is President George Bush.
He has the power and the ability to not merely *know* all the facts, by mere commanding it from the Office of the President (having many agencies at his disposal, plus all sorts of covert ops at his disposal, plus secret agencies at his disposal) — he also has the *power* to put a complete stop to it, if there is a violation of the Constitutional requirements for office of the President of the United States.
But, by the fact that he is not doing so and will not do so — brings me to one of two possible positions — he refuses to do so, because he knows there’s not an issue with the Constitutional requirements (i.e., Obama is qualified), or he is “conspiring” with those who want to put Obama in office and will ignore the qualifications issue (i.e., Obama is not qualified).
Now, it’s possible that some may argue that Bush may not “know”, but that’s sort of ridiculous since it’s been to the Supreme Court and it would be saying that Bush doesn’t know what the Supreme Court is deciding on... LOL...
Maybe one might say that Bush doesn’t want to know, so he’s ignoring it. But, that’s saying that he’s intentionally ignoring his Constitutional duties. I suppose some may say that’s true. And if that’s true, then I put that in the “conspiracy area”, up above, that I just mentioned.
Of those possibilities, I would say that Bush obviously knows (and has the full power of the government, secretly and not secretly, to *know* without a doubt) that Obama is qualified under the Constitution.
I guess there are others, here — however — that will say Bush is involved in the conspiracy. Well, there is Berg, who also says that Bush is involved in the conspiracy involving the attack on 9/11, since Berg says that in his 9/11 Truther case...
Here is another rationale for what is going on in the Obama Qualifications issue...
The following came from —
Obama’s Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach (”cauterized” O’s passport info)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2163590/posts
You said — “Yes, where is the FBI and where the you know what is the Supreme Court?”
This thing happened way back when — “During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.”
It’s been investigated and we’ve got Secretary of State Rice involved (”Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice phoned Obama and personally apologized for the breach. ‘I told him that I myself would be very disturbed if I learned that somebody had looked into my passport file,’ Rice told reporters.”), the State Department Inspector General (OIG) issuing a 104-page report on the breach last July, and the State Department (in general, saying “The State Department chalked up the passport file snooping discovered in March 2008 to ‘imprudent curiosity’ by contract employees hired to help process passport applications”), and Acting Assistant secretary for administration William H. Moser sent a six-page reply in regards to the recommendations for correcting this type of breach.
Now, with all those people and agencies and investigations going on, it would seem *very apparent* that if there is a violation of the Constitutional requirements for the office of President of the United States (which would be clear from the passport), this item would be known by all those people, and it goes right back to George Bush.
Bush is sworn to uphold the Constitution, and obviously since he doesn’t see a problem there (and is in a position *to know* for sure, and “especially so” with Secretary of State Rice, being involved in this and being directly under President Bush) — that this is fairly clear evidence that there isn’t a problem. If there was, President Bush would be *duty-bound* to uphold the Constitution.
Of course, there are people like Berg, who think that Bush was involved in the attack of 9/11, too. And I suppose..., there will be people here who will say Bush is also “involved” in the conspiracy to hide the information about Obama not being qualified under the Constitutional requirements...
It’s amazing what conspiracy theorists will come up with, it seems...
The smoking gun document has got Obama over a barrel. He didn’t get to this one...scrubbed or hidden.
Thanks Ernest. I think his stonewalling is a diversionary tactic.
I heard Rush gently dance around it today as well...
What was investigated? Add 99 apples together and you still do not have one orange.
It was the accessing of Obama’s passport information... happened last year about the first part of the year.
And the result, regarding Barrack Obama’s birth and citizenship statuses and history?
You asked — “And the result, regarding Barrack Obama’s birth and citizenship statuses and history?”
President Bush determined that it wasn’t a problem and there was not a violation of the Constitutional requirements...
That’s an assumption, not a fact. What statement in re Obama’s eligibility, specifically in regard to “natural born” status, has President Bush made?
Hmmmm, really? When did President Bush determine that it “wasn’t a problem”?
You asked — Hmmmm, really? When did President Bush determine that it “wasn’t a problem”?
When there is a case to prosecute, you announce it upon prosecution. If there is not a case to prosecute — no announcement and no prosecution...
The President announced no prosecution...
The First Fraudulent Presidency will not be commemorated by the MSM or the major parties; it must be forced into the consciousness of history by the decentralized decision-making now available to ordinary people. The urinalists will continue to pee on this truth.
Boy are you stretching it to come to that conclusion. Why not just stick to the facts? Obama has failed to provide an easily obtainable (by him) $10 document to prove where he was born. That fact bothers me and should be a great concern to every citizen of this country.
I suppose ST is using his twist logic from post #27.
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