Posted on 01/28/2009 4:40:21 AM PST by Calpernia
OK, so a few people recall him from Occidental. But why does nobody from Columbia (at the time he allegedly went there) seem to have known him?
I’m sure many do.. but Ayers and company are keeping their mouth shut for now.. :->
Nobody from Columbia wants to admit they knew him...
Who are these non-believers who Obama is referring to?
Thanks.
You are avoiding reality....
The REALITY is he is teemed "black" by 95% of American's. And probably most of the world.
Although...LOL!!...many of the world would view him first as a Muslim...secondly as a black man. Isn't that just wonderful......./s
The nonbelievers are the ones that don’t believe his Birth Certificate is real?
::rim shot::
One person named William Araiza mentioned that he had taken either a political science course or seminar with Jr. I found his name on a Columbia U alumni message board based in TX but googling his name I don’t know which William Arzaiza he is. (I don’t think he is the lawyer)
We do know that he was known as Barry Obama when he attended Punahou which is where his nickname of Barry O’Bomber came from.
Tell a lie often enough...
Calpernia; deks; Op-Head
“There is no credible evidence within the links of this post that suggest Obama used the last name “Soetoro” on a passport.”
“…those that truly want an answer to his eligibility.”
The first sentence may be true; however, it seems unwise in this case to reject out of hand a possibility merely because it has no “credible” basis.
Seemingly, the only relevant fact we are allowed to know is that O has made a substantial effort to seal, or otherwise avoid disclosing relevant documents.
When it is obvious that factual evidence has been intentionally and skillfully (?) removed from the public realm - almost certainly with the intent to deceive - it becomes necessary to speculate, to brainstorm, to reach out and thoroughly examine any information that could lead to a fact or a part of the answer.
Our inquiry should not be limited to a cold calculation of hard facts, such facts are not yet available.
What are “those” referred to in the second sentence to do in order to obtain an answer?
On January 8, 2009 not single politician, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, honored his or her oath of office to defend the constitution.
The highest court in the land has turned a deaf ear. Arguably, subject to what is happening in the lower courts, we are left to our own devices.
(Excuse me, I screwed up post #50)
“There is no credible evidence within the links of this post that suggest Obama used the last name “Soetoro” on a passport.”
“…those that truly want an answer to his eligibility.”
The first sentence may be true; however, it seems unwise in this case to reject out of hand a possibility merely because it has no “credible” basis.
Seemingly, the only relevant fact we are allowed to know is that O has made a substantial effort to seal, or otherwise avoid disclosing relevant documents.
When it is obvious that factual evidence has been intentionally and skillfully (?) removed from the public realm - almost certainly with the intent to deceive - it becomes necessary to speculate, to brainstorm, to reach out and thoroughly examine any information that could lead to a fact or a part of the answer.
Our inquiry should not be limited to a cold calculation of hard facts, such facts are not yet available.
Doesn’t matter anymore, if it ever did.
USA TODAY...big time!!!!!!!!!!
Check out all of their Barfomalia
What is the phrase - nattering negativity nabobs?
Why be so negative? Do you want to be proven right? Wouldn’t you rather be proven wrong? If people give up a fight just because it’s difficult and the odds seem against them, history would be waay different. In fact, we’d have been part of the British Empire for a coupld hundred extra years.
They are either paid, blackmailed, or on the 0-team.
Pa mom said she personally knew two people who knew him while he was at Columbia but I haven’t heard back from her.
Sad but true.
(no links)
Student of life, man of the world
Chicago Sun-Times (IL) - Sunday, November 9, 2008
Author: Abdon M. Pallasch, The Chicago Sun-Times
EXCERPT
Obama’s mom and Soetoro -Ng went back to Indonesia and Obama went to Occidental College in Los Angeles, where he led an anti-apartheid demonstration and wrestled with his white/black/Hawaiian identity. After two years, he transferred to Columbia University in New York.
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/chi-0703291042mar30-archive,0,1144101.story
Kenneth Sulzer, who lived in the same dormitory as Obama, remembered long discussions about politics, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and a possible reinstitution of the draft. Obama was “relatively quiet. But when he spoke, his opinion was respected,” said Sulzer, now an attorney in Los Angeles.
The two took classes together and Sulzer was struck by the clarity and conciseness of Obama’s mind. “I would take down everything the professor said and dissect it 12 times,” Sulzer said. “Barry printed his notes. And it was very short. Probably just one long paragraph.”
Another classmate, Amiekoleh “Kim” Kimbrew of Los Angeles, recalled Obama striding across campus in flip-flops.
“He was very popular,” she said. “There were rumors that he was a Hawaiian prince. ... He was kind of flirty, but he wasn’t a player.”
Some took Obama’s professed radicalism as posturing. “I was impressed by the sharpness of Barry’s intellect and, like many, his effortless charm,” said classmate Mark Dery, a journalism professor at New York University. But “I also harbored an instinctual suspicion of his ... suave demeanor.”
Somewhere along the line Barry, the name of the boy from Waikiki, gave way to Barack, the name he inherited from his Kenyan father.
For the most part, Obama’s commitment to social activism was limited to coffeehouse talk. But near the end of his time at Occidental, he got caught up in protests against apartheid in South Africa, helping plan a large campus rally demanding that the college divest investments there.
He opened the rally in a bit of street theater, he recalls in his memoir, speaking for a couple of minutes until two white students in paramilitary dress dragged him away in midsentence. That cameo so impressed Rebecca Rivera, another rally participant, that she wondered why he hadn’t been more politically active on campus. She made a mental note at the time to “try to get him involved.”
Obama spent just two years at Occidental. He said in a recent interview that he had begun to weary of the parties and fretted about a lackadaisical approach to his studies. He grew more introspective and serious. His mother’s warnings were beginning to take hold.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/128633
When Barry Became Barack
It didn’t happen overnight. But in college, the young Barry took to being called by his formal name. What this evolution tells us about him.
I'd love nothing more than to see Zero get exposed for the fraud that he is....
But you have folks that are swerving in and out of kooksville on this subject.....And IMO, this subject is going no where.
Know when to hold them, know when to fold them, FRiend. Sorry.......but that's how I perceive it.
fwiw-
That is true; but royalties are still being paid to whomever owns the Obama image.
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