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Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental College
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Posted on 01/28/2009 4:40:21 AM PST by Calpernia

There is a biography of Barry Soetoro 's Occidental College days. It states that when Barry Soetoro was 18-19 he attended school as BARRY SOETORO. And it wasn't until he met a girl by the name of REGINA that was the first to start calling him Barack. See:

http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/obama-at-occidental-college/

The importance of this is that it clearly shows that Barry was using his Indonesian name, and of course, his Indonesian passport.

The International Herald Tribute (The Global issue of the New York Times)

also states:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/08/america/obama.php

"Nearly three decades ago, Barack Obama stood out on the small campus of Occidental College in Los Angeles for his eloquence, intellect and activism against apartheid in South Africa. But Obama, then known as Barry, also joined in the party scene."

The LA Times also claims below that Barry was the choice of names that Barry Soetoro used when he first arrived from Hawaii to Occidental:

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/29/local/me-oxy29

"Memories of 1980 at Occidental College’s Haines Hall have the standard fragments of the era: stereos blasting the B-52’s through the dorm, pot-fueled bull sessions about the revival of draft registration, late-night cramming for economics exams.

"That otherwise private nostalgia took on public significance this month when a former Haines Hall resident from Hawaii known at the time as Barry announced that he was forming an exploratory committee to run for president of the United States."

Even Occidental College states that Newsweek reported that Barry entered their college as BARRY SOETORO under his Indonesian passport and NOT as Barack Obama.

http://www.oxy.edu/x8270.xml

It was at Occidental where he stopped being called “Barry” and became Barack Obama, Newsweek pointed out in its account of Obama’s formative years that featured his black-and-white freshman photo on the cover. “It was when I made a conscious decision: I want to grow up,” he told the magazine.

One of Barry Soetoro's college buddies says this of our Indonesian student:

http://www.verdugomonthly.com/article.php?id=382&IssueNum=32

"Tom Moyes remembers the first time he heard the name Barack Obama. It was in the fall of 2004, after the electrifying speech Obama delivered at the 2004 Democratic Convention. That was the oration, of course, which introduced the young would-be Illinois Senator to America and inspired an instant following not only in the U.S. but around the world. Moyes had missed the speech because he was on an extended vacation in New Zealand at the time. “So I pick up this newspaper,” says Moyes, who grew up in San Gabriel and graduated from Occidental College in Eagle Rock, “and it has this huge article about this guy Barack Obama. And it says he had gone to Occidental at the same time I was there. And I said to myself, ‘There’s no way.’ I’d never heard the name Barack; I’m thinking it must be a mistake. “So I call a friend I went to Oxy with, Ken Sulzer, and I say, ‘Ken, I’m down here in New Zealand and there’s this article about some guy named Barack that went to college with us. Who is that?!’” “I said, ‘That’s Barry, man,’” says Sulzer, using the nickname Obama went by during his youth, “the guy with the big afro who lived across the hall from me in the dorm.’

It is clear that the students at Occidental did not know Barry Soetoro by the name of OBAMA. Instead he was using his Indonesian name and passport. This story cleverly hides the fact that the confusion came not from the first name Barry or Barack, but because of the LAST NAME Soetoro vs. Obama.

Okay so why did Barry suddenly change his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama a year after he entered school? (I don't believe that REGINA story above.) It was simple. His mother and adopted dad got divorced in August of 1980. So naturally, when he entered Occidental in 1979 he used his Indonesian name...then immediately after his mom's divorce he desired to revert back to his birth name of Barack Obama.

See divorce records at:

http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamarecord; obamatruthfile; occidental; occidentalcollege; soetoro
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1 posted on 01/28/2009 4:40:21 AM PST by Calpernia
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To: PhilDragoo; pissant; Iowan; LucyT; getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; bvw; ...

Ping


2 posted on 01/28/2009 4:41:20 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Nothing to see here... move along...


3 posted on 01/28/2009 4:45:48 AM PST by gruffwolf
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To: Calpernia
I read all your links and I didn't see a single one where he was referred to as Barry Soetoro, either by himself or anyone else. The Abagond article does notnot claim he registered as Barry Soetoro. The Verdugmontly link does not claim he registered as a foreign student.

I swear you must be making this sh*t up as you go along.

4 posted on 01/28/2009 4:52:08 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Calpernia

Maybe I am not reading everything, but all I can gather from these links is that Barack Obama went by “Barry”. Not “Barry Soetoro” as you state in the headline. Could it not be that he went by “Barry Obama”? Not much of a stretch and hardly an indication that he went by his mother’s married name.

I am not saying I believe Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as President, but we need to make sure that we are not posting easily refuted “evidence” from a ambiguous wordpress blog with no references or sources.

Stay focused. The proof will come.


5 posted on 01/28/2009 4:53:05 AM PST by Op-Head
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To: Op-Head
>>>Stay focused. The proof will come.

Oh we are very focused. But thanks.

6 posted on 01/28/2009 5:13:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Op-Head

Since Obama is now a historical figure, these questions will never go away.

I am open to learning of any proof that Obama is not eligible for the presidency.

I read all of the linked articles, all interesting, but the words “Soetoro” and “passport” do not not appear in them.


7 posted on 01/28/2009 5:19:09 AM PST by deks ( t)
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To: Calpernia; LucyT
Thus proving that Barry lied on his admissions form(s) by indicating "No," where it asks the applicant to write any previous names.

SOP for the pathological liar known now as BHO.

8 posted on 01/28/2009 5:47:13 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Polarik

You also can’t run for office under an alias.


9 posted on 01/28/2009 6:52:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks, Calpernia

Ping.


10 posted on 01/28/2009 7:13:08 AM PST by Iowan
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To: Calpernia

BUMP


11 posted on 01/28/2009 7:42:30 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Calpernia

Ditto to some of the other comments, I’m only seeing the nickname ‘Barry’ in these, nothing about using a foreign passport or different last name. Where did you get that from? Just using the nickname Barry is not damning..


12 posted on 01/28/2009 8:54:31 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Calpernia
You also can’t run for office under an alias.

Good point. It would also be a nightmare for all those retailers of Barack Obama Inauguration Commemorative crap if they had to change it to Barry Soetoro Inauguration Commemorative crap!

13 posted on 01/28/2009 9:28:47 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Calpernia

I didn’t see anything in your links that claimed he used the name Soetero during college.


14 posted on 01/28/2009 9:36:51 AM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: Polarik
Unfortunately all this is worthless.........

Because there is no way, no how....he's leaving office.

The shame of it all....is there's probably plenty of Pol's that know...he's not legit. But it doesn't matter....to them. He's POTUS now...and that's it. Period.

It's going to be a long 4 years.....The question will be...."Will the Pubbies put up a fight"?

fwiw-

15 posted on 01/28/2009 9:37:55 AM PST by Osage Orange (Ban Thugs...Not Guns!!)
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To: Osage Orange; Amityschild; BIGLOOK; yefragetuwrabrumuy; Spunky; An American In Dairyland; ...
Because there is no way, no how....he's leaving office.

We said the exact same thing about Nixon...

16 posted on 01/28/2009 9:46:06 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 9 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Polarik

Who owns Obama’s image? I thought I remembered hearing that one could profit from something like this while in office. That is why book deals are usually offered after office terms. So if I heared that right, who is profiting from ‘Obama, the placemate’ and such?


17 posted on 01/28/2009 9:46:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
Is there any confirmation that he applied for student aid as a foreign student? I've heard the claim. This info about Occidental college lends some credibility to the possibility.
18 posted on 01/28/2009 9:51:05 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: null and void
Any thread...every thread, for that matter that discusses Zer0's corruption or ineligibility is immediately hit with what I call the BOHICA Boys...

Photobucket

Zer0 really is winning - and in our own back yard!

19 posted on 01/28/2009 9:52:00 AM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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To: Myrddin

big bump


20 posted on 01/28/2009 9:52:55 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: null and void
We said the exact same thing about Nixon...

There's some some heavy differences.....

Number one...he's a Dim.

Number two...he's a black man.

I probably could stop right there.....

Number three...the MSM will not allow him to be pushed out.

Number four...Washington Pols on BOTH sides will not let that happen.

Number five...the Dim sheeple, would burn down everything.

If as a country we couldn't drum out a lying rapist....we ain't getting rid of this guy.

FWIW-

21 posted on 01/28/2009 9:54:05 AM PST by Osage Orange (Ban Thugs...Not Guns!!)
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To: Calpernia

could = couldn’t


22 posted on 01/28/2009 9:54:10 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: null and void

Thanks, null and void

Ping.


23 posted on 01/28/2009 9:54:29 AM PST by Iowan
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To: Osage Orange

He isn’t black.


24 posted on 01/28/2009 9:55:07 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Osage Orange

From that list, doesn’t sound like it is the dims that are the sheeple.


25 posted on 01/28/2009 9:56:11 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Osage Orange

Time will tell.


26 posted on 01/28/2009 10:00:45 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 9 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Calpernia
You also can’t run for office under an alias.

Sure you can. Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV runs, gets elected, and serves today in Congress under the same alias that his father used when he was a senator - Connie Mack.

You truly do make this stuff up as you go along, don't you?

27 posted on 01/28/2009 10:01:31 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Calpernia

I think you are very likely right, but I don’t see any proof of it here.

It would be good to see some of his various college records, which he refuses to release.

Occidental did make his bizarre poems public, since they were already part of the public record. And they did state that it was a lie that Barry was on the varsity basketball team, since that also was public record, if any reporters had bothered to check.

But we still dont KNOW that he applied as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, although it’s certainly very likely.


28 posted on 01/28/2009 10:03:30 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Op-Head

Do you know or have a pretty good idea that proof will come or is this just an offhand comment?

Do not disclose anything. If you want to PM me that is fine.

Steve Pidgeon appears to have gone silent and hopefully Ed Hale is starting to keep things quiet. I am hoping Pidgeon silence is a good thing.

My guess is at least 3 or 4 SCOTUS Justices are interested in still defending the Constitution. I am not sure if 1 or 2 others can be convinced.


29 posted on 01/28/2009 10:04:30 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Calpernia
He isn’t black.

For all intends and purposes he is....

And for you to deny that is just plain wrong.

I understand what you mean....but most people would call him black...and that is all that ultimately matters.

30 posted on 01/28/2009 10:04:52 AM PST by Osage Orange (Ban Thugs...Not Guns!!)
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To: Calpernia
Can't say I disagree...exactly.

I'd guess that 90% of both houses of Pubbie pols....would NOT support Zero to be drummed out of office.

I've seen the elephant.....

On the other hand....I've seen a ton of myopic folks...on this subject.

31 posted on 01/28/2009 10:10:23 AM PST by Osage Orange (Ban Thugs...Not Guns!!)
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To: null and void

Agreed..................


32 posted on 01/28/2009 10:11:26 AM PST by Osage Orange (Ban Thugs...Not Guns!!)
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To: Osage Orange

You give his lie credibility and support by supporting it. If you believe his father is Barack Obama Senior, then he is only 6.25 percent Native African, which is the definition used for black. His father is from the Omani Arabs that migrated to East Africa.


33 posted on 01/28/2009 10:26:47 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: deks

You are correct. There is no credible evidence within the links of this post that suggest Obama used the last name “Soetoro” on a passport.

I am becoming suspicious that these sort of posts are created by people supporting Obama and wish to discredit those that truly want an answer to his eligibility.


34 posted on 01/28/2009 10:27:01 AM PST by Op-Head
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To: Non-Sequitur

Your obviously are one of my biggest fans if you enjoy following my fiction.


35 posted on 01/28/2009 10:28:10 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Cicero

I wouldn’t use the word, ‘we’.


36 posted on 01/28/2009 10:28:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

With all due respect, you are not focused. Had you been, you would have realized BEFORE POSTING that your links are meaningless and only serve as fodder for those that link we are all right-wing nut jobs.


37 posted on 01/28/2009 10:34:11 AM PST by Op-Head
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To: Op-Head

There is that ‘we’ again.


38 posted on 01/28/2009 10:40:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
Your obviously are one of my biggest fans if you enjoy following my fiction.

People with an imagination as wild as your's fascinate me.

39 posted on 01/28/2009 10:41:53 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’m pleased that I fascinate you :)


40 posted on 01/28/2009 10:44:40 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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OK, so a few people recall him from Occidental. But why does nobody from Columbia (at the time he allegedly went there) seem to have known him?


41 posted on 01/28/2009 11:01:14 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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I’m sure many do.. but Ayers and company are keeping their mouth shut for now.. :->


42 posted on 01/28/2009 11:04:01 AM PST by mnehring
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To: justiceseeker93

Nobody from Columbia wants to admit they knew him...


43 posted on 01/28/2009 11:05:43 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 9 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Calpernia
After his swearing in, Obama mentioned non-believers in his speech.

Who are these non-believers who Obama is referring to?

Thanks.

44 posted on 01/28/2009 11:06:01 AM PST by john mirse
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To: Calpernia
Whatever.

You are avoiding reality....

The REALITY is he is teemed "black" by 95% of American's. And probably most of the world.

Although...LOL!!...many of the world would view him first as a Muslim...secondly as a black man. Isn't that just wonderful......./s

45 posted on 01/28/2009 11:09:31 AM PST by Osage Orange (Ban Thugs...Not Guns!!)
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To: john mirse

The nonbelievers are the ones that don’t believe his Birth Certificate is real?

::rim shot::


46 posted on 01/28/2009 11:09:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: justiceseeker93

One person named William Araiza mentioned that he had taken either a political science course or seminar with Jr. I found his name on a Columbia U alumni message board based in TX but googling his name I don’t know which William Arzaiza he is. (I don’t think he is the lawyer)
We do know that he was known as Barry Obama when he attended Punahou which is where his nickname of Barry O’Bomber came from.


47 posted on 01/28/2009 11:10:20 AM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: null and void
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.

But who knows his nationality. Could be indonesian too. Likely he went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport in 1982.
48 posted on 01/28/2009 11:10:31 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Osage Orange

Tell a lie often enough...


49 posted on 01/28/2009 11:18:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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Calpernia; deks; Op-Head

“There is no credible evidence within the links of this post that suggest Obama used the last name “Soetoro” on a passport.”
“…those that truly want an answer to his eligibility.”

The first sentence may be true; however, it seems unwise in this case to reject out of hand a possibility merely because it has no “credible” basis.
Seemingly, the only relevant fact we are allowed to know is that O has made a substantial effort to seal, or otherwise avoid disclosing relevant documents.
When it is obvious that factual evidence has been intentionally and skillfully (?) removed from the public realm - almost certainly with the intent to deceive - it becomes necessary to speculate, to brainstorm, to reach out and thoroughly examine any information that could lead to a fact or a part of the answer.
Our inquiry should not be limited to a cold calculation of hard facts, such facts are not yet available.

What are “those” referred to in the second sentence to do in order to obtain an answer?
On January 8, 2009 not single politician, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, honored his or her oath of office to defend the constitution.
The highest court in the land has turned a deaf ear. Arguably, subject to what is happening in the lower courts, we are left to our own devices.


50 posted on 01/28/2009 11:24:25 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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