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My Refusal to Comply!
January 29, 2009 | mark gordon

Posted on 01/29/2009 11:29:23 AM PST by mark gordon

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To: gdani
For instance, if ACS answers show that people in Omaha are commuting an average of 25 miles to work now instead of 10 miles several years ago, the Govt may look into spending more money on the highway system in/around Omaha.

Isn't that what your repesentative in the House is for? Doesn't (s)he know what's going on in the district?

-PJ

61 posted on 01/29/2009 12:58:36 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I have 9 parrots. I’ll let them each leave their “signature” on it and send it in.


62 posted on 01/29/2009 12:59:35 PM PST by Merlinator (January 20. 2009, A National Day of Mourning)
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To: mark gordon

Would you provide the pdf copy? I have never seen it.
Blessings


63 posted on 01/29/2009 1:00:14 PM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: MathDoc

Religion: Jedi LOL!

I might have a bit of fun myself, next go ‘round!

But this was a Survey, not a census, I hardly see their right to any answer.

As a matter of fact, how can they prove I ever got their survey? It was sent regular mail, no return receipt at all..


64 posted on 01/29/2009 1:00:41 PM PST by KittenClaws
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle

Link on post #28


65 posted on 01/29/2009 1:01:45 PM PST by KittenClaws
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To: gdani
But I do think some of it serves a legitimate government purpose.

Can you please point out to me where in the US Constitution the words "health care" are found?

Maybe I've got an old copy but they're nowhere to be found in mine.

Thanks in advance.

Best,

L

66 posted on 01/29/2009 1:07:02 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. It's too late for the pebbles to vote.)
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To: ravingnutter

That is fabulous!


67 posted on 01/29/2009 1:07:47 PM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: Jack Black

I think I’ll steal that to put on my page as well. I may just go buy one, as well, for the flagpole. i’ve not flown my US flag since Nov 5th.


68 posted on 01/29/2009 1:15:30 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: gdani

For the 2000 census I just answered the number of occupants question. Left the rest blank. Never heard from anyone about it.


69 posted on 01/29/2009 1:15:34 PM PST by Sunbunny
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To: gdani
Fill out what you want, leave the rest blank

That's my take on it too.

70 posted on 01/29/2009 1:20:47 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Isn't that what your repesentative in the House is for? Doesn't (s)he know what's going on in the district?

If she did (and she doesn't) she would probably get that info via the ACS, among other sources.

71 posted on 01/29/2009 1:23:25 PM PST by gdani
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To: Lurker
Can you please point out to me where in the US Constitution the words "health care" are found?

The same place "right to privacy" is.

(/devils advocate)

72 posted on 01/29/2009 1:24:34 PM PST by gdani
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To: mark gordon
I went out to the www.census.gov site to find out more information about the ACS vs. the Census. What I found:

"2010 Census is Different

The Census Bureau has changed the way it conducts the national count.

Goodbye Long Form

In the past, most households received a short-form questionnaire, while one household in six received a long form that contained additional questions and provided more detailed socioeconomic information about the population.

The 2010 Census will be a short-form only census and will count all residents living in the United States as well as ask for name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, relationship and housing tenure – taking just minutes to complete.

The more detailed socioeconomic information is now collected through the American Community Survey. The survey provides current data about your community every year, rather than once every 10 years. It is sent to a small percentage of the population on a rotating basis throughout the decade. No household will receive the survey more often than once every five years.

View more information on the American Community Survey.

A similar survey, the Puerto Rico Community Survey is conducted in Puerto Rico." -- end of copy/paste.

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I'm glad the long form is gone-- we got that one last time. But I don't like the looks of the ACS, and the ACS faqs section indicates:

"Do I have to answer the ACS questions?

Yes. Response to this survey is required by law (Section 221 of Title 13 ).

Respondents are required to answer all questions on the ACS to the best of their ability. Your answers are very important because they represent the answers of many other similar households in your community. The data that you and others provide in response to this survey are required to manage or evaluate federal and state government programs. If you submit an incomplete form or provide data that are unclear, we may contact you by phone or in person to obtain or clarify the missing information." -- end of second copy/paste

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I did not see the penalty for not responding to the ACS listed in the ACS faqs section.

73 posted on 01/29/2009 1:26:36 PM PST by green pastures
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To: numberonepal

I believe The Legion takes them, as should the Fire Dept.


74 posted on 01/29/2009 2:13:19 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: NC28203
But it would also significantly reduce one’s representation in Congress.

How do you reduce from the current zero representation we are currently enjoying?

75 posted on 01/29/2009 2:35:24 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: Emile
The census has been used too long to divide us into groups and set us against one another.

DING DING DING.... WE HAVE A WINNER!

And that is precisely the reason for all those intrusive questions. Grouping. Groups fall in and out of favor, they are catered to or ignored. Pols take great comfort in such information. Divide and conquer - POWER - CONTROL.

If we all just said we were one group (American!), they'd lose power (well, at least a little bit - it's a start). But too many fail to see it and blindly answer like good little mind numbed sheeple.

Every ten years I tell em how many. That's it. Last census, that's what I did. They sent someone round. I was outside working when she drove up. Gave her credentials and began in on her verbal questioning.

"Two people live here" was the reply along with a look that said; to ask anything further is going to waste both of our time, and irritate the hell out of me. She left. No further communications were attempted.

76 posted on 01/29/2009 3:03:56 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: trumandogz

“And the Census Bureau is free to send you more letters.”

The last time around I did the same thing. I completed the ‘number of persons living at my address’ part & sent it in. Later a census taker showed up at our door to get us to complete the rest. Sweetie started answering questions (against my wishes) but he finally got fed up & stopped answering when the questions of how much we earned came up. He said the govt already had that info & told the guy to leave. The guy’s hands were shaking as they spoke.
Apparently he’d taken a lot of abuse from uncooperative folks like us!

We never heard any more about it - no fine.


77 posted on 01/29/2009 3:05:44 PM PST by Twotone
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To: mark gordon
I had that form with the last census and I filled in minimal info on the short form instead.

They kept sending people to the house to get more info.
They finally gave up after I threw them a couple of more bones.

I never did get hassled further or fined.

There was an instruction that said: Where it asks for race, please print R A C E ( using the word RACE as an example of how to print only 1 letter in the box.) Of course, I followed the instructions on that, implicitly...I printed R A C E.

78 posted on 01/29/2009 4:08:56 PM PST by stylin19a (I listen to the voices in my golf bag)
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To: pepperdog

That’s why I’m supporting the following in Arizona and Oklahoma (so far) to close up that loophole and to require *specific documentation* in order to be placed on the ballot...

Eight Arizona Legislators Introduce Bill for Presidential Candidates to Prove Eligibility

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2170651/posts

I’m involved in the Oklahoma one, but I just give the reference to the Arizona one to show that this is being done...


79 posted on 01/30/2009 2:28:19 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: pepperdog

LOL..., too many windows open and I got the wrong one... sorry... now to go to the other window... :-)


80 posted on 01/30/2009 2:30:29 PM PST by Star Traveler
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