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Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits? (Breaking on Fox
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Posted on 02/10/2009 6:27:34 AM PST by jessduntno

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill

And instead of using those views to gain acceptance to a mental institution of his choice, Tom Daschle wants them enacted as policy. We already know who was receptive to his views; some man who promised hope and change and who did not tell us that those involved killing seniors and the very ill.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill. And the Democrats in the Senate, including Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Specter and the two nitwits from Maine are too stupid or too reckless to put up a fuss. We, as citizens of the United States of America, can’t be. Our nation was founded on better morals than this.

The Democrats have declared war on the elderly. And they will suffer the shame of history as a result.

These are not compassionate people. These are not good people. These are despicable and outrageous beasts and the time has come to finally call them what they are.

Here America, here are the “leaders” you just elected. Cry and pray, but also take action. This nation was built on better stuff than that.

It’s a sad day when even columnists who’ve engaged “liberals” (henceforth to be called fascists) in dialogue and discussion, end up having to sound like Michael Savage, who, quite frankly, seems to be right about the uproar he’s been raising for years. But it would be an even sadder day if no one spoke up in outrage against this brutality.

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To: penelopesire

STILL SAYS HE MADE A COMMITMENT AND WILL STILL VOTE FOR THE BILL!

We should protest in front of his house for 30 days, non stop.


141 posted on 02/10/2009 10:04:33 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: devane617

A little revolution once in a while is a good thing....”

I think it’s coming. I’m seeing it all over the internet.


142 posted on 02/10/2009 10:05:23 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks:)


143 posted on 02/10/2009 10:05:47 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mojitojoe

I wish I lived nearby..I’d do it in a NY second.


144 posted on 02/10/2009 10:06:09 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Well we’ll see about that. This is the straw that broke the camels back. Kill the unborn babies and kill the old people too. What do they consider elderly? 50? 60? Every day of life is precious. Every day you have with your family is precious. These people are evil. It’s time to stop this NOW.


145 posted on 02/10/2009 10:08:34 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: jesseam

Thomas Jefferson once said “when people fear the government that is tyranny, when the government fears the people that is liberty”. Beautiful words.

We are all here outraged and fearing them. Time to change that.


146 posted on 02/10/2009 10:11:13 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: devane617

“A little revolution once in a while is a good thing....”

I hear the run on guns and ammo is continuing. Maybe our masters will sit up and take notice.


147 posted on 02/10/2009 10:11:41 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: peeps36

Blood boiling is an understatement. I am fing mad right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No words to describe it.


148 posted on 02/10/2009 10:14:14 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: jessduntno

AARP will always support them


149 posted on 02/10/2009 10:25:41 AM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: Man50D

maybe somewhere in this monstrosity they included a bill to reward children who turn in their parents for thoughtcrimes?


150 posted on 02/10/2009 10:26:57 AM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: jessduntno
Sorry - I guess the euthanasia euphanism “should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age” is not “details” enough for you...and why is it a rant?

It is a rant because it's just an extended complaint that contains few, if any, facts.

Your need to explain the euphemism simply drives the point home. There is nothing that actually gives specific details to those who haven't discovered them from some other source.

Let's just say that I have no patience with bad punditry, which is about all that the posted article contains.

151 posted on 02/10/2009 10:29:36 AM PST by r9etb
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To: cajungirl

It has penalties for non-compliance


152 posted on 02/10/2009 10:29:43 AM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: WellyP

The Democrats want to ban private health coverage. Remember when they tried government healthcare in California and it didn’t pass and HillaryCare??

They would have immediately banned all private medical care.

Thats the Democrat stand


153 posted on 02/10/2009 10:33:54 AM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: DJ MacWoW

rationing care for all people, just worse for the seniors


154 posted on 02/10/2009 10:37:47 AM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: jessduntno

Here’s the reality: some government beaurocrat will mark “denied” on your file he or she is reviewing. This is Nazi Germany time


155 posted on 02/10/2009 10:41:27 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: SE Mom; penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; Kevmo; gunnyg; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; ..

Beyond despicable and 1984!!!

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The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system.

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One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446).

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Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)

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Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

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The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid.

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The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined (90-92, 174-177, 181).

http://chasingthewind.net/2009/02/10/stimulus-plan-kills-older-people/

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Life

**John Hardwig—Professor of medical ethics and social political philosophy at East Tennessee State University__

The scarcity of world resources imposes a duty to die. A responsibility to end one’s life in the absence of any terminal illness…a duty to die even when one would prefer to live….a duty to die is more likely when you have already lived a rich and full life. You have already had a full share of the good things life offers. Watch out all you Democratic Seniors, Euthanasia is on the way.

**Richard Lamm—Advisor to Bill and Hillary Clinton on healthcare.

Old people have a duty to die and get out of the way.

These are the same two-face people that get in front of the camera and plead for more government handouts to the elderly. Of course, most of this is seen around election time.

This kind of divisive talk may be one reason we are seeing a resurgent spirit of anarchism among our youth. Remember Hillary’s covert attempt to ram her socialist healthcare system down our throats.

http://americandaily.com/index.php/article/561

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The MUST SEE stinging article about this that CANNOT be posted here:

http://tinyurl.com/c44ah5


156 posted on 02/10/2009 10:44:58 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: r9etb

“Your need to explain the euphemism simply drives the point home. There is nothing that actually gives specific details to those who haven’t discovered them from some other source.”

The details will come when it is decided that you don’t need a hip replacement because you are only going to live (fill in the blank from the actuarial table used by the bureaucrat that decides this) years, but of course that “detail” is yet to come.

Based on the intent of the actions proposed to be undertaken, in the article posted, I think you will have reason for an “extended complaint” should you get to the logical conclusion of the article’s premise...

Your inability to extrapolate this hardly relegates this to “bad punditry.” It may simply speak to your limited ability to detect reasonable a projection...


157 posted on 02/10/2009 10:47:29 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: STARWISE

I am furious that so many dense Americans do not understand that this “stimulus” bill is more of a “sneak it in and see if they notice” bill! Those of us who are paying attention know what’s going on. Our problem is that far too many don’t or don’t care.


158 posted on 02/10/2009 10:56:22 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: jessduntno

Well, you’re obviously very defensive about this particular rant, so I’ll simply walk away from the discussion. There’s no point in continuing.


159 posted on 02/10/2009 11:34:27 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

“Well, you’re obviously very defensive about this particular rant, so I’ll simply walk away from the discussion. There’s no point in continuing.”

I know. You got nothing. Back under the bridge...


160 posted on 02/10/2009 11:36:38 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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