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I Don't Understand Wall Street
Political Castaway ^ | February 15, 2009 | Hythloday

Posted on 02/15/2009 8:01:36 AM PST by Hythloday

While I love my own brother, I just don’t understand Wall Street.

My brother (an investment banker) and I had a heated conversation on the “bailout” and the bonuses that have been paid to the investment bankers that have utterly failed on Wall Street. And I just don’t understand the argument...


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1 posted on 02/15/2009 8:01:36 AM PST by Hythloday
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To: Hythloday

“the bonuses that have been paid to the investment bankers that have utterly failed on Wall Street”

who said the ones who failed were getting the bonuses? it’s a dhimmocrat mindset that paints with such a large brush. “the investment bankers”, “the blacks”, “the rednecks”


2 posted on 02/15/2009 8:04:57 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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“...90% of the bank’s employees had nothing to do with the failure.”

And 90% of Muslims are not terrorists.


3 posted on 02/15/2009 8:05:19 AM PST by pelican001
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To: Hythloday

Straw man argument. Most Wall Streeters I know are ‘Rats.


4 posted on 02/15/2009 8:06:26 AM PST by chet_in_ny
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To: chet_in_ny

Straw man argument. Dems are trying to act like CEOs caused this crises while exalting Frank and Dodd as the solution.


5 posted on 02/15/2009 8:08:34 AM PST by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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To: Hythloday

Wall Street types are the new welfare queens, and should be granted the same respect as such.


6 posted on 02/15/2009 8:09:06 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Hythloday

It’s a small, narrow street on the southwestern end of Manhattan, lined with office buildings...but that’s not important right now.


7 posted on 02/15/2009 8:10:40 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Hythloday

The agrument makes no sense. Even if he’s correct that “90% of the bank’s employees had nothing to do with the failure” that would not justify outrageous bonuses to those 90%.


8 posted on 02/15/2009 8:11:44 AM PST by pelican001
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

” who said the ones who failed were getting the bonuses? “

Who said that the Cat workers who got laid off had anything to do with sales being down??

When a business is doing badly, everybody in that business suffers....

Or do you believe, like so many ‘experts’ apparently do, that when you dip a bucket of water out of a pool, it leaves a hole in the water??


9 posted on 02/15/2009 8:12:13 AM PST by Uncle Ike (At some point, government has to be the next bubble to burst. (H/T Freeper This_far))
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To: Hythloday

Using United Airlines as a benchmark, If banks could take the bancupcy route, the officers would have been paid bonuses to stay, then when they emerge from bancrucpy, the officers get another bonus for getting out of bancrupcy.
What’s the difference ?


10 posted on 02/15/2009 8:18:54 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception asterisk administration)
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To: Hythloday

They have chosen to structure their pay such that it appears to be a bonus. If they just called it salary it would be disadvantageous to them. I think that in this circumstance their “bonuses” should be tied to profitability. If they don;t like that arrangement they should renegotiate their pay as salary.


11 posted on 02/15/2009 8:21:10 AM PST by cdpap
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To: Hythloday
Investment banker pay is based on the revenues they generate. It is like sales commissions but more loosely defined.

Bankers that don't generate significant cashflow are canned.

12 posted on 02/15/2009 8:22:07 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: RichInOC

LOL. Rimshot.


13 posted on 02/15/2009 8:22:27 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Hythloday

Does anybody realize that the worlds elite bankers floated some 15 trillion dollars of phony paper and all that non-existent wealth is now truly non-existent. But the perpetrators of this cataclysmic fraud ( each of a few thousand of them ) are still sitting on billions and billions of actual money ( gold and commodities ) and they are untouchable. No prosecution will ensue.

Your political system is an illusion. It does not exist.


14 posted on 02/15/2009 8:29:22 AM PST by gost2
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To: Uncle Ike

“When a business is doing badly, everybody in that business suffers”

Is that your law, or what? Do you want to impose draconian democrat rules on wages?


15 posted on 02/15/2009 8:30:31 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Hythloday
I "understood" Wall Street when it came to my company's ESPP (employee stock purchase plan)... when ever I sold company stock, our stock holding company (UBS) would charge a transaction fee ($25+), then a handling fee ($5+)... then the kicker: $6 to mail me a check (this fee would still be charged even if there was only some type of electronic transfer... $6 to put a check in an envelope...? Seriously!).

I complained to our human resources/benefits department.

I must not have been the only one that had issue with UBS making massive coin on us employees... we finally kicked UBS to the curb and signed on with E-Trade.

Screw you UBS... and the horse you rode in on.


16 posted on 02/15/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: stylin19a

Banks are regulated. As such, they cannot file for backruptcy protection.

They fail or they are saved.


17 posted on 02/15/2009 8:47:52 AM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: stylin19a

The difference is $850 Billion worth of bailout.


18 posted on 02/15/2009 9:02:51 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: stylin19a

The difference is $850 Billion worth of TAX bailout.


19 posted on 02/15/2009 9:02:57 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: stylin19a

Taxpayer money is involved.


20 posted on 02/15/2009 9:06:16 AM PST by nyconse
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