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Has the Right surrendered in the culture war?
The Washington Examiner ^ | 04-09-2009 | Chris Stirewalt

Posted on 04/09/2009 11:05:24 AM PDT by lifeisacarnival

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To: MrB
When parents say that they “deprogram” their kids, or “work with them” to overcome the Marxist indoctrination of their textbooks and teachers, I just roll my eyes. Yeah! Right!

Geeze! Why not fight a forest fire with a water pistol?

Or...

As one poster put it, “Why not throw a grape a Jupiter?”

41 posted on 04/09/2009 1:41:18 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
I think maybe you overlook the effect of the courts on schools. I attended HS in NYC [quite a while ago] and before every assembly we saluted the flag and read from the Bible usually the 23rd Psalm. If a school tried that today they would be slapped with a law suit. Even student speech at graduations is dampened. School administrators can't spend their time defending lawsuits so out goes anything that has religion because it offends someone - separation of Church and State, you know.

The country is not slouching toward Gemorrah any longer, it is speeding. The Constitution has been turned on its ear. Instead of protecting religion from government, it is protecting government from religion.

42 posted on 04/09/2009 1:43:44 PM PDT by ex-snook ( "Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Star Traveler
I like to say, at times, that the problem would also be solved quite easily if Christians simply made more Christians (i.e., got serious about proclaiming the Gospel to everyone possible and always did so...).

I thought you were going to encourage more baby-making, not proselytizing. ;-)

-PJ

43 posted on 04/09/2009 1:44:58 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Hey..., the Muslims do that, make babies “by the dozen” and then, you can *never leave the religion*!! LOL...


44 posted on 04/09/2009 1:47:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: ex-snook
I think maybe you overlook the effect of the courts on schools. I attended HS in NYC [quite a while ago] and before every assembly we saluted the flag and read from the Bible usually the 23rd Psalm. If a school tried that today they would be slapped with a law suit
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Any government powerful enough to **force** prayer and the 23 Psalm on non-believing children is powerful enough to force atheism on them as well.

The very concept of compulsory government schooling was flawed from the beginning. These government schools arose out of the vicious anti-Catholic sentiment of the mid 19th century. Government schools then were essentially Protestant Christian schools funded by compulsory taxation. ( A review of 19th century textbooks is proof enough of that.)

Ah....But what the anti-Papists did not figure upon was that any government powerful enough to force Protestantism on Catholic children was powerful enough to force atheistic Marxism on 20th and 21st century children.

The very concept of government schooling is fundamentally a freedom of conscience abomination! We must not attempt to reform the unreformable in an effort to reclaim the culture. We must do the following:

1) Get your own children out of the government schools.

2) Work to close down every atheistic government school in the nation! ( That means **all** of them!)

3) Set up a system of tuition-free, private, conservative one room school houses, mini-schools, and homeschool cooperatives. If our nation's colleges and universities can have endowments in the 100 BILLIONS, sure conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) could fund private conservative K-12 schools for every child in the nation.

I fear though that it is too late to save our culture and our freedom.

45 posted on 04/09/2009 2:21:55 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: lifeisacarnival
"The resurgence of traditional Christian mores and culture that began in the late 1970s has ended."

It "began" 2000 years ago and it hasn't "ended" yet.
There has been an increase in secular humanism and some decadence and decline in certain religious organizations and communities. Part of this is media-driven.

46 posted on 04/09/2009 2:57:38 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: RC2

Just because the media and the pols avoid to acknowledge the presence of hundreds of thousands of Christians in Washington — every year -— for over 30 years — Marching for The Right to Life of our posterity doesn’t mean that Christians aren’t concerned, active and persistent.

An April 15th Tea Party is a good place to reunite and say exactly what our founding fathers said and followed through on.


47 posted on 04/09/2009 3:23:26 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: wintertime
"But what the anti-Papists did not figure upon was that any government powerful enough to force Protestantism on Catholic children was powerful enough to force atheistic Marxism on 20th and 21st century children"

Amen Brother!

48 posted on 04/09/2009 4:13:54 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: lifeisacarnival
There's not really much we can do. Our culture is corrupted. With our divorce rate over 50% and out of wedlock births over 40%, the battle is lost before we even begun to fight it. Young people have no motivation to do the right thing.

Our culture in the '50s was fine because elders were respected and the place of man and woman in society is clear. Today the lines are blurred and that everyone looks out in their own selfish interest so......

49 posted on 04/09/2009 4:36:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: lifeisacarnival
The evangelical surge of the last thirty years has been called the "Fourth Great Awakening."

Scholars may differ on the count and the dates, but here's one version:

First Great Awakening (c. 1730–1755)
Second Great Awakening (c. 1790–1840)
Third Great Awakening (c. 1850–1900)
Fourth Great Awakening (c. 1960–1980).

I suspect they're wrong about the last.

So far as I can tell the evangelical awakening started in earnest in the Seventies and was going strong at the end of the millenium.

But all these awakenings have a beginning and an end.

They flame up and then burn out.

And then they start up again.

50 posted on 04/09/2009 4:44:50 PM PDT by x
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