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To: philly-d-kidder
The Catholic Church is dying in Europe thanks to lack of interest among to ancestrally Catholic. They are discriminated against in the Islamic world, and in China, but so are almost every other faith.

Hard-core Hindus are no fans of the RCC, Muslims, Sikhs, Anglicans, or Zoroastarians, as such faiths are seen as "non-indigenous" imports into a historically Hindu society. It doesn't help that Christians in India have historically supported the far-left (just as Jews did in Europe and for similar reasons. The Right in India being comprised entirely of Hindus).

I make no excuses for mob violence that occassionally occurs toward members of non-Hindu faiths in rural India. The Indian government (who currently include Xians in the ruling coalition) has taken steps against this, but until you change the hearts of men, religious intolerance will always be with us.

14 posted on 06/01/2009 7:18:20 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
"It doesn't help that Christians in India have historically supported the far-left (just as Jews did in Europe and for similar reasons. The Right in India being comprised entirely of Hindus)."

It has a lot to do with the fact that the Christians in India are also members of the lower caste system, a system that keeps lower caste people poor by preventing them from ever holding a decent job, like a teacher, or any government position, a police officer, etc. They are the lowest of the low. It's no wonder they support leftwing parties.

18 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:00 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Clemenza

There would have been NO Eurpoean Civilization without the Catholic Church they were the backbone!

Middle east is persectution... a civil Place like Kuwait has Freedom of worship only 3 Churches for 300000 plus Catholics...

Pakistan is Burning Bibles and Churches... India is Killing priest and Nuns...

Iraq 3 Million Catholics of The Caldean group are living overseas... The Jews have made it Impossible for Palestinian Catholics from 20% of population to 2% they cannot leave Bethlehem they have no Passports..Catholics fall under arabs for License Plates for cars! The Muslims Harass them and Kill them...

The catholic Church is the Counter Cultural Body for 2000 years and is used to being harassed all the way to pentecost Sunday the birth of the Church!!


19 posted on 06/01/2009 7:39:14 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (....Nothing is more powerful than a man who prays...(St. John Chrysostom))
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To: Clemenza
hindu discrimination against Christians in India is overblown. The recent issues in Orissa were really inter-caste and ethnic clashes: india has an affirmative action policy for 1. lower castes and 2. "tribes"

The lower castes have a certain % reserved for them and the tribes have another % reserved for them.

however, lately in India, other castes who aren't "lower" but "mid-level" saw that the lower castes were getting reserved places at educational institutions and so THEY said "give us some". So, this squeezed the % reserved for the lower castes.

in Orissa, the lower castes became Christian (due to noble missionaries who lived among the people and shared with them the word of God -- these missionaries were Catholic, Baptist, etc. not exclusively Catholic). The "tribes" in Orissa were happily animist (non-Hindu, non-Christian).

however, due to the above "mid=castes" taking over a certain % of reserved places, and due to the extreme-right-wing hindu groups saying that reservations shouldn't be given to Christian lower-castes, the Christian lower-castes in Orissa tried to put themselves as "tribes". The "tribes" of course didn't like this and they got a few demagogues from teh extre-right-wing hindu groups to push them.

THIS cause the Orissa riots. It was not an exclusively Christian-hindu thing, but a more complex ethnic, caste mix. Also, the Marxists were the ones who pulled the main trigger, when they (the Marxists) killed a Hindu swami priest. The extreme-right-wing hindu groups claimed that Christians did it and the violence started. The Marxists later took ownership for the killing.


Catholics in India are pretty well respected, despite the attempts by these right-wing hindu groups -- most hindus like Christianity and like Christians -- most have grown up in christian institutions and would attend mass etc. so they don't harbour violent feelings against Christians. And, in the recent elections, the right-wing hindu party was strongly rejected by people who blamed them for the Orissa tragedy.
46 posted on 06/02/2009 3:37:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt)
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