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The Coming Economic Collapse, Part 2
Seeking Alpha ^ | 6/8/09

Posted on 06/09/2009 7:52:11 AM PDT by FromLori

Edited on 06/09/2009 7:59:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Today’s essay is part two of our three part series detailing the ongoing collapse of the US economy with a focus on why this coming fall will prove the “worst is over” crowd wrong yet again.

On Friday we detailed three major developments. They were:

The US’s economic shift from manufacturing to services The massive drop in US incomes The beginning of the debt bubble If you missed that essay, you can read it here. Today, we’re addressing how the debt bubble encapsulated the US government as well as why Obama’s Stimulus Plan won’t fix anything.

To revisit the above three points, the US began outsourcing jobs in earnest soon after we re-opened trade with China in 1971. As outsourcing spread to higher and higher skilled jobs, this meant fewer jobs in the US market. This resulted in US consumers having to use credit to maintain their standard of living. It also meant more than one parent working to make ends meet.

On a national level, the US government began living beyond its means as well. Adjusted for inflation, gross tax receipts have only risen 40% in the last 39 years. However, over the same time period, total government spending increased 2,600%!!!

To fund this insanity, the US issued debt in the form of Treasuries. Foreign governments (most notably China) which were generally getting richer selling us stuff loaded up. The whole scheme is similar to buying a toy from the store, then having the store lend you money to buy another toy… ad infinitum: hardly a sensible long-term plan for financial solvency.

Now, everyone knows we run deficits. But not everyone knows that the deficits we publish are unbelievably understated. Corporations, in order to qualify for generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) have to count their pension and healthcare expenses for retirees.

Uncle Sam doesn’t.

John Williams of www.shadowstats.com notes that official US deficit statistics do NOT include net present value of unfunded social security OR Medicare expenses. A lot of folks have made a big deal about the US running a $1 trillion deficit this year. Well, if you included the net value of those unfunded Social Security and Medicare expenses we cleared a $1 trillion deficit in 2007, a $5 TRILLION deficit in 2008 and are on course to clear a $9 TRILLION deficit this year.

To give you an idea of how big a problem these deficits are, consider that the US government could tax its citizens 100% of their earnings and NOT have a balanced budget.

In light of these issues, the Government’s $787 billion stimulus package doesn’t exactly breed confidence in an economic turnaround. Incomes have lagged inflation in this country for 30+ years. Creating a bunch of temporary positions related to construction and the like is NOT going to alter this in any significant way.

Moreover, most of the job growth in the last 10 years has come from Bubbles: two out of five jobs created between 2002 and 2007 came from the housing industry. The irony here, of course, is that the Stimulus Plan is merely following this trend, creating jobs from our latest (relatively unreported) Bubble: the Bubble in government spending and employment.

Bottom line: the US needs to create sustained job growth involving skilled professionals with high wage earning potential, NOT more guys laying concrete. We need fundamental structural changes to the US economy, NOT temporary positions resulting from one-time government projects.

And with a $9 trillion deficit in the works, $787 billion doesn’t really mean much in terms of increased tax receipts or job growth. Also, and this is bit of a personal aside, it’s hard to believe that throwing $787 billion towards creating jobs really shifts our economy away from financial services when we’ve thrown $2 trillion+ towards Wall Street and the banks (via direct loans and lending windows).

Tomorrow, I’ll address the likely outcome of today’s economic and financial woes. Until then…

Good Investing!


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1 posted on 06/09/2009 7:52:11 AM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori

It appears all we can or all we are doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic! The Ship of state is doomed?


2 posted on 06/09/2009 7:58:08 AM PDT by BellStar (John Adams and John Hancock: We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! 1775)
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To: BellStar

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1091-Ten-Things-You-Must-Do.html


3 posted on 06/09/2009 8:01:57 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

“Bottom line: the US needs to create sustained job growth involving skilled professionals with high wage earning potential, NOT more guys laying concrete.”

We had this in the 70’s, late 80’s then early 90’s everyone saw the supposed Golden Goose in China and Mexico...manufacturing ran to China and Mexico to build plants and transfer production there. Build it cheaper... Sure, technology comes from the great minds here in the US but we can’t keep manufacturing here? WTF?... Unions fault?...
Business leaders only know how to grow companies via buy outs and mass layoffs to get shareholders excited. What ever happened to the real way of doing business?...


4 posted on 06/09/2009 8:02:02 AM PDT by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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To: BellStar

What the hell ae we supposed to do? The seeds of this nighmare were sown decades ago with the creation of SS and Medicare. Obama is making iot much worse to be sure, but we would have been here either way since Congress has been stealing from these programs forever.

Are they pushing us towards a totalitarian system because they want to be able to crush public opposition when it becomes completely obvious what they have been doing?


5 posted on 06/09/2009 8:02:20 AM PDT by my small voice
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To: FromLori

“Bottom line: the US needs to create sustained job growth involving skilled professionals with high wage earning potential, NOT more guys laying concrete.”

We had this in the 70’s, late 80’s then early 90’s everyone saw the supposed Golden Goose in China and Mexico...manufacturing ran to China and Mexico to build plants and transfer production there. Build it cheaper... Sure, technology comes from the great minds here in the US but we can’t keep manufacturing here? WTF?... Unions fault?...
Business leaders only know how to grow companies via buy outs and mass layoffs to get shareholders excited. What ever happened to the real way of doing business?...


6 posted on 06/09/2009 8:02:27 AM PDT by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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To: BellStar
No like Clinton,

the Obidiot says,

"we're jus'stoppin' for ice"

7 posted on 06/09/2009 8:03:10 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: oust the louse

I know but they will keep doing and voting the same way so there is not much the rest of us can do. Interestingly I found 2 pretty good articles on of all places the nation where they started laying the blame where it belongs.

http://bluelori.blogspot.com/2009/06/no-longer-bushs-fault.html


8 posted on 06/09/2009 8:05:58 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori; appleseed
Lori, thanks for posting this.

appleseed...( ( (ping) ) )

FWIW...part 1 here

9 posted on 06/09/2009 8:13:03 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: woollyone

Your welcome :) did you see the chart of the day? Yikes...

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-world-industrial-input-2009-6


10 posted on 06/09/2009 8:14:45 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
No matter how bad you make it out to be, it will be a skadillion times worse.

When all is said and done, the only people surviving will be Radioactive Zombie Ghouls With Lasers, Who When They Open Their Mouths, Fire Pit Bulls Who Wheb *They* Bark, Emit Clouds of Killer Bees.

And that's if we're lucky.

11 posted on 06/09/2009 8:17:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm not paying it, so screw you, Obama!)
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To: FromLori

Miss Lori, where may I find Part 1 of this ?


12 posted on 06/09/2009 8:27:50 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: my small voice

Pray that the collapse will come quickly and enable us to take back our country. Not much else to do other than to buy gold and silver and buy mining shares.


13 posted on 06/09/2009 8:28:49 AM PDT by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: FromLori
The irony here, of course, is that the Stimulus Plan is merely following this trend, creating jobs from our latest (relatively unreported) Bubble: the Bubble in government spending and employment.

Lori - can you add me to your ping list - thanks.

14 posted on 06/09/2009 8:30:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (Nobel Prizes & Pulitzers - now monuments to left wing bias - shame recipients.)
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To: GOPJ

I don’t have a ping list sorty I don’t know how to do that.


15 posted on 06/09/2009 8:42:35 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: ßuddaßudd

http://www.gainspainscapital.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62:the-coming-economic-collapse-pt-1


16 posted on 06/09/2009 8:43:24 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: my small voice

“What the hell ae we supposed to do?”

-You all should have listened to Ross Perot. He told us but we were more interested in Clinton’s boxers or briefs. What a mess. Remember the giant sucking sound that Perot talked about? It’s here.


17 posted on 06/09/2009 8:43:57 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: FromLori

Not a reassuring chart. Not at all.

AM convinced that the latest DJIA and SPX are only the dead cat bounce as the market is milked before collapse.

Wanted to buy a center console boat thsi eyar but may opt for a kayak instead. lol

Preps continue at the woolly ranch
...ok...so it’s more like a cottage.


18 posted on 06/09/2009 9:03:52 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: FromLori

Thank you Ma’am ...


19 posted on 06/09/2009 9:18:51 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: woollyone
Wanted to buy a center console boat thsi eyar but may opt for a kayak instead."

I have five kayaks. I've stopped thinking of them as hobby vehicles and more of my family's low gas mileage survival fishing fleet.

20 posted on 06/09/2009 9:28:42 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Spring '09)
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