Posted on 06/10/2009 3:58:20 AM PDT by Nils Bergeson
My guess is you voted for that “moderate” marxist, O’bozo.
That McCain was just too extremist for you.
I believe that the moderate spirit - which I applaud - is to do what’s ‘right’ but with the thought at the back of your mind that you might be wrong. A little humility, or just plain caution, never hurts.
This thread is really not going to go over well with the moderators...
Another way conservatives disguise themselves as moderates, twisting the langauge. They think nuance as wisdom. Our countrys history is replete with famous moderates </sarc> A self described moderate is just another way of calling yourself a condescending, aloof, douchebag. Call me an extremist, guilty as charged. At least I stand for something not deliberating between good and evil endlessly and finding the merits in both. Marx was no moderate.
Get the irony?
Probably not.
What is the virtue in standing for something that is wrong? What advantage is there in being consistent in error? And as JC got brought into this, what kind of faith is it that never knows doubt?
Hey I can quote bible verses too. “Come let us reason together, says the Lord” Isaiah 18,1. But how can you do that with an extremist? They know what they believe. Their minds are made up. There is no possibility of change, no chance of growth. They move, they speak, they emote, but the brain does not need to function, and ultimately the soul withers.
What is the point of freedom of speech if minds cannot be altered? Far from being a principled stand, your position is nothing more than a denial of the basic tenets of the USA. You sir, are someone who would rather hate someone than love them enough to change their minds.
AMEN!
Of course you do. So do most people. Thats whey extremists get elected. Extremism is easy. It saves having to think about issues. You just pick your position, read up some literature, and then regurgitate back the pre digested pap that passes for political discourse in the western world these days.
Tell me. If there is no doubt where someone stands on an issue, how is there any chance that they can be persuaded otherwise?
“but..I’m not so sure the Republican party is going the right way over issue x, y or z because of a, b and c. Perhaps it would be better if we did d, e and f instead. What do you think?”
If I vote for someone based on his stands on an isssue, why would I want him to be "persuaded" otherwise?
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Moderates make enemies because one side knows they are trashing the Constitution. For the other side Moderates don't trash the Constitution fast enough.
No one achieves greatness in world history as a spineless moderate.
Make no mistake. In Washington, a moderate is someone whose vote is for sale.
I agree, if you voted for your representative solely on the stand he made on a particular issue, you wouldn’t want him to be persuaded otherwise.
As you live in a representative democracy, you might be better advised to spend more time thinking about the candidates on offer and choose someone who has plenty of real life experience, common sense and discernment, who would be able to pick their way through the moral, economic and ethical maze with some authority. If you select someone purely on their “stands” you are always going to be disappointed, as the only person who completely agrees with you on everything is the handsome fella you see in the mirror in the morning :)
No one who is spineless achieves very much.
A moderate doesnt care for a “place in history”. Moderates are content to get a solution. They dont need personal agrandisement.
That’s the funny thing about having a consistent political philosophy. I don’t have to worry about what a given person who shares my philosophy is going to do. It’s not random like it is for most moderates.
Moderates are nothing but backstabbers. They decide an issue not based on it’s merits but what will make them look better, feel better and get them the most kudos from the press. They pretend they are above it all and better than those nasty “extremists”. They are not to be trusted.
I think you have answered your own observation. It depends who defines “compromise”. Moderation is not neccesarily compromise - there are some things you cannot compromise on, there are others when you can (at least temporarily).
Naah... there’s a difference between a vote being up for sale and a subcommittee clause insertion being up for sale. Pay him all you want, but Barney Frank isn’t going to vote pro-life and John Cornyn isn’t going to vote pro-choice... but either one would race to get their contributors a cut of any pie that’s being Dole-d out.
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