‘Hate’ blogger Hal Turner turns himself in to Connecticut police

The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 6/11/09 | Matthew Shaer

[bdeaner]

...today police are saying that one blogger, Harold “Hal” Turner, crossed the line when he suggested some Connecticut government officials should “obey the Constitution or die. ”Turner, a New Jersey native, was apparently angry about proposed legislation that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic churches in Connecticut more control over their parish’s finances, the Associated Press is reporting. The blogger and radio show host turned himself in to the Connecticut police this afternoon on a charge of inciting violence.

[stockpirate]

“A people unwilling to use extreme violent force deserves the tyrant that rules them.”

This quote doesn’t say use that force, but the elected leaders need to believe beyond a shadow of doubt that that violent force will be used if need be and further it will be used against them.

This fact in and of itself will deter tyrants. But until they understand this our people are helpless.

[stockpirate]

The left, which includes a US senator (John Kerry) have been advocting violence against those who opppse their agenda for over 40 years.

Who here can forget, Ruby Ridge, Waco, the VVAW plot to murder 19 US senators who supported the Viet-Nam war, the VVAW plot to murder Nixon and Agnew. The Weather Underground’s failed plot to bomb a USO dance in NJ that was attended by hundreds of US servicemen, the bombing of a NYC police station, the bombing of the US Capital building, the bombing of the pentigon. The recent murder in DC by a ultra left-wing socialist.

The war has already started, most just refuse to see the truth.

My money says there will be violence at some of the upcoming Tea parties brought on by leftists and or government troops or agents.

[stockpirate]

The left, which includes a US senator (John Kerry) have been advocting violence against those who opppse their agenda for over 40 years.

Who here can forget, Ruby Ridge, Waco, the VVAW plot to murder 19 US senators who supported the Viet-Nam war, the VVAW plot to murder Nixon and Agnew. The Weather Underground’s failed plot to bomb a USO dance in NJ that was attended by hundreds of US servicemen, the bombing of a NYC police station, the bombing of the US Capital building, the bombing of the pentigon. The recent murder in DC by a ultra left-wing socialist. The two attempts on President Ford’s life. The VVAW smuggling guns and supplies to black radicals who had murdered apolice officer. The two police officers murdered by members of the Weather Underground in an armored car hold up. The list goes on.

The war has already started, most just refuse to see the truth.

My money says there will be violence at some of the upcoming Tea parties brought on by leftists and or government troops or agents.

[BP2]

Explain “hurt anyone.”

There’s a hint of satire in my words ... if I have to explain everything, it loses it's impact – designed to make you think ... however ... I’m contrasting the Leftist moniker of “everything’s okay as long as no one gets hurt” with the Libertarian ideal of “absolutely no censorship”. There are no absolutes – absolutely – right?!

I’m also throwing in the concept of Racism is a travesty, but IS permissible under the First Amendment. It could have been “fixed” along with the 13th and 14th Amendments after the Civil War, but somehow was not. Free Speech, thank goodness, was as hallowed in the 1860s as it was in the 1780s.

Today, the Left states that Racism is utterly deplorable, unless of course, the Racism is espoused by a minority. A “wise Latino” SCOTUS Justice nominee and a President who was married and mentored by a RACIST black Reverend CAN harm others with their words and ideals, passed on through the trusted positions they hold in levels of government. They don’t need to make threats like a “Hate blogger” might do – their "Reverse Racism" may be carried out by legislation, court opinion or Executive order issued by a Czar.

Racism IS disgusting – without a doubt – regardless from who it comes. But IMO, Reverse Racism via government-mandated fiat is on par with Racism that resorts to violence to carry out its "objectives".

Both are a threat to Liberty ... aren't they?

[BP2]

This fact in and of itself will deter tyrants. But until they understand this our people are helpless.

EXACTLY -- hence my use of the phrase, "... using the Second Amendment to leverage against tyranny". THIS from pgs 15-16 of the “DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER” Opinion (http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf):

If “bear arms” means, as we think, simply the carrying of arms, a modifier can limit the purpose of the carriage (“for the purpose of self-defense” or “to make war against the King”). But if “bear arms” means, as the petitioners and the dissent think, the carrying of arms only for military purposes, one simply cannot add “for the purpose of killing game.” The right “to carry arms in the militia for the purpose of killing game” is worthy of the mad hatter. Thus, these purposive qualifying phrases positively establish that “to bear arms” is not limited to military use.

The Second Amendment is an "insurance policy" against tyranny the Framers gave us. Let's hope that we never have to collect, i.e., "make war against the King."

BUT -- that "insurance policy" holds NO WEIGHT if The People are unwilling to collect ... again, only if it's absolutely necessary.

[Munz]

hate crime isn’t it now?

[frog in a pot]

Thank you for taking the time to express so clearly what is concerning so many.

Returned for two years to my native California 10 years ago, after a 10 year absence, and was struck by how much it seemed special interests were moving the state to extremes.

That provided the basis for my Free Republic screen name. As you pointed out in your thread:
“Are we becoming a bit like the proverbial frog, sitting in a pot of cold water, barely noticing that we’re being boiled alive – very slowly?”

In the case of many of us, the fact we are aware we are in a pot of water is enough to insure we will be effective.

Our current Republican politicians appear to be ineffectual in stopping this move to socialism, and almost certainly beyond that; they clearly ignored their constitutional duty on January 8, 2009.

2010 will be an important politicial battle; the most important, perhaps, for some time.

“Government exists by the consent of the governed; however, if the governed are denied the right of self defense, those in power may exist in whatever form they choose.”