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Could THIS be Obama's End Game?
na | 06-20-09 | OrangeHoof

Posted on 06/20/2009 4:17:38 PM PDT by OrangeHoof

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To: Mr. Mojo; Eaker
His National Security Force would be slaughtered like sheep in short order.

Damn straight.

We welcome them here in Texas.

It's a pain to pay range fees.

41 posted on 06/20/2009 5:34:30 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Xenophon450

No, your scenario makes perfect sense. Watch how Beijing moves, this will tell you how the wind blows./Just Asking - seoul62......


42 posted on 06/20/2009 5:37:18 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: Xenophon450

I’m thinking ahead . I think Japan might get thrown under the bus sometime down the road along with South Korea & Taiwan once China , using your scenario , gets a foothold on the Korean Peninsula . China-Russian-USA alliance .


43 posted on 06/20/2009 5:37:38 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: OrangeHoof

You’ve got to be kidding me. This sort of nonsense is eerily similar to the kind of crap the DU peddles: Bush made it happen, or Bush let it happen.

Obama could go down in history as one of the worst presidents of the United States, but no matter what, I refuse to believe that ANY American president would do such a thing.


44 posted on 06/20/2009 5:37:47 PM PDT by foobarred (Disclaimer: I have a right to be stupid and wrong. Please don't legislate that right from me.)
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To: OrangeHoof

If Obama permits an attack on Hawaii or anywhere else on US soil when the known threat is in plain sight, I doubt even the democrats will permit him so much as a “uh..err..” as far as what he has to say in what this nation does going forward.


45 posted on 06/20/2009 5:39:07 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sushiman

If it’s an inside job for NK and Obama, it’s a win win for NK. Can you say bailing out a unifying “democratic” “moderate” Korea?

It’s how one sees convergence and invasion: a brainwashable America is desired by enemies and globalists for sake of their own entranchment and job security.


46 posted on 06/20/2009 5:40:21 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: cripplecreek

You should ask Jim R and the admins to put up a page devoted to a full explanation of Cloward Piven. Wouldn’t be a bad thing to Digg either.


47 posted on 06/20/2009 5:42:15 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: OrangeHoof

Heavens, this is so twisted. I’m not sure such a strategy could possibly pay off. America would hate him for not standing up to North Korea and causing the attack on Hawaii.


48 posted on 06/20/2009 5:44:31 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I don’t know. He’s already spinning against Israel and for Iran, in “hope” that Israel lets him try to “change” the mideast.

All he wants to change is Israel by stopping Israel as Jews were told to let Hitler do the murdering. He cast no demons out of the Iranians by using Iranian rhetoric, thus he is not changing Iran, it’s Iran brainwashing him an changing him.

The same useful adaptation is used by North Korea which views Obama giving a green light to Iran nuking Israel and other forms of proliferations.

Then he will blame us into guilt for havingnukes and trying to escape to freedom by using them.


49 posted on 06/20/2009 5:45:19 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: WashingtonSource

Hawaii is the perfect useful idiot to destroy which has sealed his birth certificate.


50 posted on 06/20/2009 5:48:03 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: libh8er

If that governess of Hawaii had any smarts, she would turn Obama’s BC over to ....?

Come to think of it, who of the congressional pubs have the stones to do anything with the BC, even if they had it in their hands?


51 posted on 06/20/2009 5:58:27 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: OrangeHoof
Many conservative Americans are fearful that the Obama Administration will strip our nation of constitutional liberties. Some are worried that our Constitution will be abandoned and a dictatorship established in its place.

The majority of participants in FreeRepublic discussions have not read the Book of Mormon from cover to cover. In its Second Book of Nephi is a passage claiming to be a divine pronouncement that there shall be no kings in America, a teaching that many conservatives might wish were true, even if they think that the Book of Mormon is a pack of lies.

"But behold, this land," saith God,
"shall be a land of thine inheritance;
And the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land,

And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles,
And there shall be no kings upon the land
which shall raise up unto the Gentiles;

And I will fortify this land against all other nations,

And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish," saith God;
"For he that raiseth up a king against Me shall perish,

For I, the Lord, the King of heaven, will be their king,
And I will be a light unto them forever
that hear My words.

"Wherefore, for this cause — that My covenants may be
fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men,
that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh —
I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness
and of murders and of abominations;

Wherefore, he that fighteth against Zion —
both Jew and Gentile,
both bond and free,
both male and female —
Shall perish;

For they are they which are the whore of all the earth;

For they which are not for Me are against Me,"
saith our God;

"For I will fulfill My promises which I have made
unto the children of men, that I will do unto them
while they are in the flesh."

(The statement "And I will fortify this land against all other nations" is not a prophecy, but a promised blessing that I think we are losing because of widespread animosity against Christian values. The First Book of Nephi warns "... These things must shortly come; yea, even blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke must come; and it must needs be upon the face of this earth; and it cometh unto men according to the flesh, if it so be that they will harden their hearts against the Holy One of Israel." The 2001 terrorist attacks on America, though partially fulfilling this warning, were human judgments on America that God did not intervene to prevent.)

A free online text of the Book of Mormon, in the Restored Covenant Edition, which is the truest to the original manuscripts (the dictated manuscript and the printer's manuscript), is at:

http://www.restoredcovenant.org/RCE.asp?CAT=RCE

52 posted on 06/20/2009 6:00:44 PM PDT by John McDonnell (Try to hide my candle under a bushel, and it will burn through the bushel.)
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To: humblegunner

I would very much like to exchange my US passport with one issued by the Republic of Texas.


53 posted on 06/20/2009 6:03:57 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: cripplecreek

In the short term, perhaps. However if he could get away with it, he’d do it. I’m not underestimating the stupidity of the American people for voting for a liberal Congress and a pro-arab/Islam president after 911.

There is something terminaly sick with the media and liberal sycophantism, as well as the “we want you successful” guilt trip by pro-China trade and pro-China slave methods of Bush and the GOP.

They like/forgive this slave Laogai/Maoist economy too much. Change is about power to change, to brainwash, to propagandate a pliable people and keeping them manipulated and divided if needed.


54 posted on 06/20/2009 6:03:59 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: OrangeHoof

Far fetched if it were anyone but Obama,


55 posted on 06/20/2009 6:06:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: OrangeHoof

“...you read it here first...”

Yeah, but that was in 1999.


56 posted on 06/20/2009 6:07:06 PM PDT by John W
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To: svcw

We want America united and we should stick behind him they said? It means they want America divided and blame us for the division: this was Biden’s memo meaning, perhaps.

Any attack on a “side beach” of America would bring further division. A unified Obamerica would flatter him but also embarrass him in terms of expectations he could not meet. He said it himself oedipianly microcosmicaly: I could not force my daughter to keep a baby (from a rapist? himself incestuous? what did he mean?)

He is not advancing the cause of a proud and shame minded grandfather or father. Something is wrong with this guy, and what rolls in the house rolls for the nation with him. There is something suicidal, neglectful, treacherous and depressive about him.


57 posted on 06/20/2009 6:22:54 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: JudgemAll
I agree, he is mentally deficient.
Barry is a narcissistic megonogistic megalomaniac psychopath with paranoid delusions.

But he is not stupid, which makes him very dangerous.

58 posted on 06/20/2009 6:28:25 PM PDT by svcw
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To: editor-surveyor

Indeed. The US liberalizing and Constitution trivializing “culture” is already de-facto fully invaded if not neutralize (60% still like him). Nuking Hawaii? An invasion? What invasion? What bullying? It’s their culture, no?

Granted it is sarcastic, but if such comes to mind, it really is revealing in terms of morale and mental readiness. What if he could do anything with a sizable portion of the population within his own abilities? He can control us but cannot fight wars and is a wuss, and that is a fact.


59 posted on 06/20/2009 6:32:59 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: OrangeHoof

James Madison:
Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation.

James Monroe:
Of the liberty of conscience in matters of religious faith, of speech and of the press; of the trial by jury of the vicinage in civil and criminal cases; of the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus; of the right to keep and bear arms.... If these rights are well defined, and secured against encroachment, it is impossible that government should ever degenerate into tyranny.

George Mason:
To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.

Patrick Henry:
The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.

Thomas Jefferson:
God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

To preserve the freedom of the human mind then and freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom.

(So who volunteers to be the first martyr?)

Somewhere on the internet:
Gun Control is life insurance for those Government Officials scheming to steal the rest of your Bill of Rights.


60 posted on 06/20/2009 6:34:31 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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