The falsehood and danger of Asperger syndrome: victim=disabled

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Any of you folks have a kid who gets labeled with this crap take him/her out of school now! The schools WILL destroy your kid and you with them.

Also it might be good to freep the hospitals that Nate and Kyle went to.

FAIRVIEW DEVELOPMENTAL CENTER this is where Nate was,

Fairview Developmental Center is one of five state-operated developmental centers operated by the Department of Developmental Services. Fairview is a multi-service residential facility licensed by the California Department of Public Health to provide acute, skilled, and intermediate care to individuals with developmental disabilities who need 24-hour health care supervision, a structured environment, and a habilitation program not currently available in their home community. Services include training in daily living, vocational, leisure, academic, communication, mobility, socialization, and community skills. Services are provided both on campus and in community settings.

HISTORY: Fairview Developmental Center is the newest of the state's five developmental centers officially opening on January 5, 1959. It is located in Costa Mesa, California, a city that is the cultural and commercial center of Orange County. Originally occupying 752 acres, Fairview had an initial bed capacity of 2,622 and was intended to house some 4,125 residents. The actual population peaked in 1967 at 2,700 and much of the original land was transferred in 1979 to the city of Costa Mesa. The population on May 27, 2009 was 493. (Population Trends)

Here is the hospital that Kyle was under involuntary outpatient treatment by his abusive father. I happen to be good friends with him by the way. Acadia hospital. Not surprisingly in Maine the way communism should be!

Acadia Hospital

The primary mission of The Acadia Hospital is the provision of both hospital-based and community-based mental health and substance abuse treatment services to the people of Maine. Reflecting the caring nature of its mission, The Acadia Hospital is committed to providing quality services which foster dignity and a positive environment for children, adolescents, and adults with mental health and chemical dependency problems and to advocating for their mental, physical and spiritual well-being.

The services of The Acadia Hospital are responsive to individual needs and must be high quality, cost-effective, and accessible, achieving a balance between community needs and available resources. The Acadia Hospital shall seek to continually improve services by promoting education of patients, staff, students, families, and the general public in matters of mental health and substance abuse. The Acadia Hospital encourages non-patient financed clinical and non-clinical research within guidelines approved by the Board of Directors.

As part of the regional network of Eastern Maine Healthcare, the mission of The Acadia Hospital shall be at all times consistent with and supportive of the goals of Eastern Maine Healthcare.

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For those with children with Asbergers, the answer is not to coddle but to push. Coddleing under the public school system produced a situation where my child was “managing” a 30 F. Pushing my child and yes, lots of tears and fights and stress has her now making Bs in Saxon pre-Algebra.

But it required us taking out children out of public school, sending them to private schools and pushing HARD.

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[Kansas58]

Aspergers is REAL, it was not “invented” it was discovered and researched.

Now, misdiagnosis is always a problem, but the author, here sounds like a Scientologist who hates Psychology and Psychiatry.

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I am not a scientologist. I am a Christian. My Christian faith causes me to oppose psychiatry. The entire purpose of this abominable practice is to enslave human beings. Psychiatry is atheistic, it is racist and it is unamerican. Psychiatry was used to promote the holocaust, to promote eugenics and slavery and to promote communism. The fact that the Tseglins were told by these idiots that they had the wrong set of beliefs is proof of this.

I would refer you to psychiatry: an industry of death but there is an even better article here Pharmageddon: When drugs kill

[Kansas58]

I would also add that, often, there are “co-morbid” or combined issues.
For instance, the guy on Boston Legal probably has something like turrets, in addition to Aspergers.

[Texas Fossil]

“Aspergers is REAL”

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Accurate statement, I have family members with the condition. Now the question of cause, is unanswered. There is not even an agreement on the name for the disorder.

“Crypto Sensitivity Syndrone” makes more sense to me than Aspergers. I feel it is a collection of disorders that are autoimmune related that have similar symptoms.

Is it a disability? I am still not sure. Is it a health problem, yes. Is it regularly miss-diagnosed? Yes, often.

This is very credible:

http://www.backlash.com/content/disab/2003/rvm1203.html

[Kansas58]

Sorry, you are a kook, by your own words.

I absolutely agree that psychiatry and psychology have been abused, through the years.

That does not, in any way, mean that DSM-IV or the findings of the mental health field are of no value.

Your piece is even contradictory! You seem to accept emotional damage, due to abuse, sexual and otherwise. What is emotional damage if not a psychological reaction to negative events?

It is entirely possible to be a strong Christian and STILL be a psychiatrist or psychologist.

As stated previously, ANY discipline can be abused and misdirected.

Those you love would be better served if you would get the chip off your shoulder, accept the possibility that the diagnosis is accurate, and work to provide coping skills to those you love.

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Did I forget to mention that Kyle's dad is a major libtard? He supports increasing the minimum wage, giving amnesty to illegals, taxing and spending and thinks Maine has one of the best economies around. Then when his son can't get another job because all the jobs are being sent away and because business is going bad he calls him an f***ing retard and tells him its his fault.

Liberals are unfit parents.

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so you think just because someone like Kyle or Nate or even Austin were at one time in their lives picked on or unemployed that means they are mentally ill? You don't think economics has anything to do with it? You don't think the schools have something to do with it?

Sorry, but I will never take my kids to these quacks and let them destroy their lives. If opposing this makes me a kook well praise the lord I guess that makes me a kook.

I wonder what you'll say when the DSM-V comes out labeling defender of the constitution and conservative as severe disorders?

[Kansas58]

I suggest this book, written by a VERY successful person with Aspergers:

http://www.amazon.com/Look-Me-Eye-Life-Aspergers/dp/0307395987

The diagnosis actually took a weight off of his shoulder, and helped him deal with the world, on his own terms.

He ended up being the special effects guy, for the rock band KISS!

[COBOL2Java]

Asperger's disorder was first invented by a German doctor named Hans Asperger. (the disorder was named after him.)

I would've been pissed if my last name was 'Asberger' and it wasn't!

[neocon1984]

The Psychiatric community as a whole does not really see it that way. Asperger's is viewed as a form of mental illness such as schizophrenia, autism and bipolar and even grouped as mental retardation.

This person does not know squat about psychiatric diagnoses. Although it is listed in the DSM, the criteria for Asperger's is completely different than the criteria for MR.

[Kansas58]

Not at all.
I think that YOU are cherry picking diagnosis criteria, in an act of “denial” -— unable to accept the situation as it is.
I have a son with Aspergers.
I am as frustrated with society, with the mental health profession, with educational institutions as anyone.
However, I also understand that:”
1.) Aspergers is very difficult to diagnose
2.) There are several criteria to be examined, and you are looking at very few of them.
3.) A misdiagnosis of Aspergers really does little harm. At worst, the patient might have Aspergers tendencies or Autistic tendencies, with other disorders ON TOP of the Aspergers. In any event, the help and support of those who have lived with, and studied, Aspergers will do you NO harm, whatsoever. There really aren't very many therapists who push drugs for Aspergers alone, that I am aware of, so I think you are painting with a broad brush in that area.

[Kansas58]

“A pervasive developmental disorder, Asperger syndrome is distinguished by a pattern of symptoms rather than a single symptom. It is characterized by qualitative impairment in social interaction, by stereotyped and restricted patterns of behavior, activities and interests, and by no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or general delay in language.[15] Intense preoccupation with a narrow subject, one-sided verbosity, restricted prosody, and physical clumsiness are typical of the condition, but are not required for diagnosis.[5]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

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You want to explain to me then why Nate was doped up and dropped from classes and put in an institution? do you also want to tell me then why psychiatrists at Acadia took the side of Kyle's dad when he made him lose his job and all he ever owned to force him on SSI? Maybe why the doctors told Rod Parsley his son would never do anything?

That certainly doesn't sound high functioning to me. Also I have read the diagnostic manual and I read part of Kyle's evaluations and they used the fact the he was raped and picked on and no other reason. Never mind that he socialised well as an adult and even got married.

[Kansas58]

Your post reads like a nutty chain letter telling me I must respond by such and such a date or bad things will happen to me.
Sorry, your case history is weak.

Do you have the entire file, in your possession, on any of these cases?

Do you know if any of them confessed to homicidal or suicidal thoughts or any violence, in their conversations with counselors and mental health workers?

NO! You do not konw that.

There are Saints in Heaven with Aspergers.

There are those damned to Hell, with Aspergers.

There are well accomplished, successful people, with Aspergers, I have posted a book, on this thread, about one of them, WRITTEN by one of them.

There are also complete social failures, with Aspergers.

Just as is the case with diabetes or hay fever or chronic depression.

It is entirely possible that someone with Aspergers ALSO has other mental disorders that would require an institutional setting.

It is also entirely possible that a person with Aspergers might learn to cope with the world, and do very well.

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I do apologize if I presented it in such a manner but I take this seriously. Any one of us could be in a similar situation. Also you should know that the overwhelming majority of psychiatrists in this country are flaming liberal. Add to this they have way to much power. The fact that someone could be locked away for ages or indefinitely for something like thinking a different way disturbs me.

[Kansas58]

Then I suggest your argument is with the treatment, and not, always, with the diagnosis.
There is no reason, on the diagnosis of Aspergers, alone, that anyone should ever be locked up or institutionalized.