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To: Shellybenoit
Of course it's wrong. And even if it were "right", ALL models based on differential equations have implicit assumptions built in. You can have a perfectly splendid model which gives very accurate results WITHIN the scope of assumptions and it will STILL go bad on you outside those limits.

I try to be very patient explaining this to people with no mathematics background. But try explaining it to some idiot with a masters in French art appreciation who thinks they're saving the world... It's as futile as trying to sell soap to a drug-fried hippy.

There is no excuse at all for someone with a "math" or "science" background trying to pass this crap off as "settled", much less having the stones to support it as the basis for public policy.

You can take this to the bank: If you see a "scientist" who says man made global warming is killing the planet, he's one of two things - either he's lying about his qualifications to make that statement - or he's got another agenda he's not willing to be upfront about. In either case, don't leave your children alone in a room with him.

16 posted on 07/15/2009 1:34:23 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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To: LTCJ
I meant to add that the basis for the models for CO2 involvement being used to predict runaway warming employ boundary conditions that are clearly unrealistic. The catch is that those assumed conditions are hidden - they're not obvious from examining the differential equations' solution.

And the solution is OLD. If I'm correct in recalling, the original solution was derived back in the '30's. The problem is that the result has been used (without the assumptions accompanying them for the most part) for almost 80 years and the details, though available, have largely been forgotten. It is the incorrect application of this solution, OUTSIDE the limits of the assumptions, that leads to unbounded positive feedback (runaway warming).

Here's the kicker. In the last few years a new solution has been derived for the differential equations which use realistic boundary conditions (no small mathematical feat in itself). The result? Self-limiting feedback which yields very, very small warming of less than a degree C no matter how much CO2 you pump into the system.

Global warming is not killing us, it's the FEAR of global warming being used to force STUPID actions that has the potential to kill America.

18 posted on 07/15/2009 6:49:18 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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