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Have to love Mae Beavers! God bless that woman.

You can see 1861 all over again...

1 posted on 07/19/2009 7:34:31 AM PDT by NoobRep
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“You can see 1861 all over again...”

The secessions of 1860-1861 were over states’ rights, and the next secessions will be over the same thing.

1776; 1860-61;...will 2010 herald the next revolution?


2 posted on 07/19/2009 7:40:36 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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A line was drawn in the sand

So what's going to be done about it? Will the state challenge the ATF in court? They ought to since this is probably the friendliest USSC we're ever going see in our lifetime.

3 posted on 07/19/2009 7:41:09 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Great post .... thanks... I will keep up with this story with interest.


4 posted on 07/19/2009 7:41:11 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoobRep

God bless her is right.


5 posted on 07/19/2009 7:41:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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“At the time of passage through the TN House and Senate, Judiciary Chairman Mae Beavers had this to say- “Be it the federal government mandating changes in order for states to receive federal funds or the federal government telling us how to regulate commerce contained completely within this state – enough is enough. Our founders fought too hard to ensure states’ sovereignty and I am sick and tired of activist federal officials and judges sticking their noses where they don’t belong.””

Absolutely correct. So sick of them. They have overstepped the boundaries of not only their authority, but sanity as well.


7 posted on 07/19/2009 7:49:47 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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We have got to get a reign on the ATF (they work for US, we do not WORK for them)!

This is big..I pray Tennessee does this the right way (God’s way), yet also has the Guts to stand up to the Federals.


8 posted on 07/19/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by JSDude1
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9 posted on 07/19/2009 7:55:28 AM PDT by JSDude1
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The 50 states should all go to court against the Fed.The states created the monster so they should keep the monster in it's cage or end it.
11 posted on 07/19/2009 7:59:22 AM PDT by taxtruth
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I’m not from TN, so I have to ask, why did the governor not sign the bill?

Does this mean he will not fight for it if challenged in court?


13 posted on 07/19/2009 8:03:00 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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Quote from the ATF letter to FFL dealers:

However, because the Act conflicts with Federal firearms laws and regulations, Federal law supersedes the Act, and all provisions of the Gun Control Act and the National Firearms Act, and their corresponding regulations, continue to apply.

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The Gun Control Act--

The Gun Control Act of 1968, Pub. L. No. 90-618, 82 Stat. 1213 (also known as GCA or GCA68, and codified as Chapter 44 of Title 18, United States Code) is a federal law in the United States that broadly regulates the firearms industry and firearms owners. It primarily focuses on regulating interstate commerce in firearms by generally prohibiting interstate firearms transfers except among licensed manufacturers, dealers and importers.

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National Firearms Act--

The National Firearms Act, often shortened to NFA, is technically known as Chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code, 26 U.S.C. § 5801 through 26 U.S.C. § 5872. Passed in 1934, the National Firearms Act requires a tax on the manufacture and transfer of all firearms that National Firearms Act Stamp are Title II, as well as Federal registration of such firearms. However, one of the most widely known parts of the National Firearms Act is the 1968 Gun Control Act, which bans the importation of any firearms not used for a “sporting” purpose.(The Stamp requirement was on full automatic weapons)

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Do either of these laws comply with the 2nd Amendment which, by the way, has not been changed?

2nd Amendment--

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

16 posted on 07/19/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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ATF assistant director Carson W. Carroll wrote that ‘Federal law supersedes the Act’, and thus the ATF considers it meaningless.

So when the ATF is asked where they get their authority, they hold up the Interstate Commerce Clause.

Then when interstate commerce does not apply (as with a firearm completely manufactured on sold within a state) they claim they have authority regardless. Figures.

Not for anything, but WTH is the "Assistant Director" of the ATF doing deciding law for a few million citizens in Tennessee?

17 posted on 07/19/2009 8:13:41 AM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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19 posted on 07/19/2009 8:16:27 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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The State also needs to pass a law like the federal law making it a state crime to infringe on someone’s constitutional rights under color of law. That will allow the state to arrest and try BATF thugs and other federal thugs in State court and imprison them in State penitentiaries.

Put a few federal thugs in prison and the rest will not be so willing to violate people’s rights.

21 posted on 07/19/2009 8:34:14 AM PDT by SUSSA
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Two questions:

Can the States use their respective National Gaurds units to protect their citizens from unlawful Federal intervention?

Can States refuse to allow their respective National Gaurd units to serve the Feds in overseas operations?


30 posted on 07/19/2009 9:23:28 AM PDT by glock_fan
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I’d love to see Tennessee stand up for their state rights. The Feds are stepping way beyond their bounds in so many areas. If the states had the guts to reassert all that should be state rights, the feds would not be able to stand up to it.

What if
1) Tennessee put state police at every road into the state and expressly asked each person entering the state if they were working for the federal government, and if so acknowledged, denied them entry
2) Sent back all federal funds accepted by the state
3) Cranked up their in-state manufacture of firearms and ammunition
4) Offered firearm education and training to all Tennessee citizens at cost
5) Organized a state-militia for every county

The residents of Tennessee are proud and motivated people. I think they would proudly stand up for their state with honor and integrity, something the federal government is sorely lacking in.


35 posted on 07/19/2009 9:37:50 AM PDT by Lurkus Maximus
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40 posted on 07/19/2009 10:14:39 AM PDT by mcmuffin
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PING! Man you sure picked the right state in which to set the 3rd book! Let's hope that's the extent of your prophetic abilities.
51 posted on 07/19/2009 1:44:22 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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The ATF will kill (literally) someone rather than let the states make their agency obsolete.


55 posted on 07/19/2009 6:34:55 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Thanks JSDude1! I'm arriving late to the dance - as usual.

Just my thoughts on these developments, but I think the federales will likely end up in a no-win situation. Unless something breaks the momentum of these State initiatives, like the Murrah bombing coincidentally put the brakes on an earlier one, almost anything the feral government does to quash this will be seen as either overreaching or heavy handed. And it wouldn't hurt for conservatives to get a break or two along the way.

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57 posted on 07/19/2009 11:03:38 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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59 posted on 07/20/2009 5:10:19 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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