Obama's Dr. Mengele Admits Health Care "Reform" Will Kill Old People Sooner

Flopping Aces ^ | 07-25-09 | Mike's America

[Starman417]

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's brother, a physician, appointed to Obama health care job admits killing old people is the only way to cut costs!

DEADLY DOCTORS O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE By BETSY MCCAUGHEY New York Post July 24, 2009

Emanuel: Believes in withholding care from elderly for greater good. THE health bills coming out of Congress would put the decisions about your care in the hands of presidential appointees. They'd decide what plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have and what seniors get under Medicare.

Yet at least two of President Obama's top health advisers should never be trusted with that power.

Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research.

Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. "Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change," he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, "as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others" (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008). Yes, that's what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider social justice, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else.

Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they'll tell you that a doctor's job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time. Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96). Translation: Don't give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy.

He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years" (Lancet, Jan. 31).

"Communitarianism?" Sounds like ?

[Jeff Head]

They are fully emmersed in the culture of death...from innocent children to the eldrerly.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.

Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

[screaminsunshine]

The Soylent Green Solution. Obama Die Fast Health Plan.

[freekitty]

The problem with this guy he thinks he is excluded.

[webschooner]

OBAMA DEATH CARE

[Brilliant]

Obama: “Yes, but we don’t need them.”

[Paladin2]

Zer0 and the ‘RAT Party = Throw Grandma under the bus.

[Mygirlsmom]

He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens

I have to wonder what someone like a Stephen Hawking would say about this.

[combat_boots]

Never in my lifetime did I think advice and representation in DC would descend into the darkness of this evil.

Anyone who thinks the Terri case was not about this is deluded. She was the precedent.

Darwinists have the state religion of Gaia/GW. The Democrat worship the State. The pro-choice throw their babies into the fires of Molloch.

All that travertine. All that blood on their hands. How dare they. How dare they profane the foundations of these United States.

So. The FEMA coffins will be used after all. Now, what will be constructed on the camp sites? Crematoria for all the dead who die too soon and too many for cemetaries?

Note to self and others: funeral people is a growth industry.

“The horror. The horror.” (Brando, “Apocalypse Now”)

[Frank_2001]

Hey “Dr” Zeke, it is my professional opinion that you should go f**k yourself.

[combat_boots]

“Throw Grandma under the bus.”

The elderly, the infirm, the seriously ill, the disabled. HIV/AIDS.

The Democrat are the Party of Death.

[indylindy]

I watched Soylent Green on TCM tonight.I so much wanted to label that awful hospital “ObamaCare Clinic”.

[Paladin2]

“Late term abortions”

[proudofthesouth]

I say call this “health care” bill what it truly is: GENOCIDE!

Health care will be limited the elderly and I guarantee you that eventually newborns who are born with health problems and older children and adults who eventually develop long lasting, serious health problems will eventually be denied health care as well.

Its not health care - its GENOCIDE!

The frog in the pot of water will yet again have the temperature turned up again and again!

GENOCIDE!

[MarMema]

FDR, Helen Keller, Lord Byron, Beethoven, John F Kennedy,
John Mellencamp, Hank Williams Sr, and Michael J Fox are or would have been on the short list.

[narses]

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Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

[richardtavor]

I wonder if Obama has a copy of Mein Kamph on his bedside end table—it appears that everything that he proposes is from that book. This guy is scary.

[GeronL]

O thinks tonsilectomies are unnecessary

[MarMema]

"...The poster argued in so many words that the care of each "undesirable" cost the "undue burden" of 60,000 marks of German taxpayer money over the patient’s lifetime, and that a publication called the New Folk contained a better - indeed, a "final" - solution to the difficulty."

[GeronL]

government employees are exempt from being equal ya know

[freekitty]

Yeah, like he’s a doctor. He needs to go.

[mimaw]

So this is where all the social justice crap has taken us. Dr. Mengele’s health care reform should be mailed to every Bishop in the country and they should be made to respond, or will more than half of them crawl under their beds like they have over the abortion issue.

[omega4179]

This is Soylent Green

[narses]

I agree. Mine will get a copy. Much good that will do.

[kittymyrib]

After being forced to submit to “end-of-life” brain-washing sessions from age 65, there will probably be very few who make it to 75....except for the “indispensable” Democrat politicians, of course. Specimens such as Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd will be exempt.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Headline?

As seniors do "the right thing we'll do just fine."
AARP To Lower Age Limit
Best for bottom line. "We fully support less expensive palliative care," says AARP spokesman.

[FortWorthPatriot]

My God (and I don’t say that in vain), this is history repeating itself. Father in Heaven help us all...

[Diogenesis]

[PubliusMM]

The 0bamunists are trying to ‘fix’ healthcare AND the pending Social Security meltdown in the same pogrom.

Too many old folks? Too many infirm folks with no hope of improvement? Simple... Control their access to treatments and care. They’ll die quicker. VOILA! Fewer people drawing SocSec.

Problem solved...

It’s time to take back the country.

[rfreedom4u]

Where is the part of the bill that says to withhold care from the disabled? After all “we” don’t need them either. Or at least the demoncrats don’t.

[Texas resident]

Isn’t it ironic that a democrat president is emulating hitler’s final solution when another democrat president fought to destroy hitler? And all the while accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being nazi’s.
Nazi is the german anachromym for National Socialists Workers Party. Heil ozero.

[USNBandit]

The elderly, the infirm, the seriously ill, the disabled. HIV/AIDS.

HIV/AIDS? You are talking about a protected class there. That will never be rationed.

Seriously, the problem with "end-of-life" care decisions is that a lot of care can be end-of-life care if you deny it. Juvenile cancer treatment, a new born that needs a respirator, a 50 year old that need a heart bypass. All you have to do is make the waiting list long enough. Once you start making those decisions where do you stop. The answer is that you don't.

My grandfather had a bypass/valve replacement done when he was 75. Pretty sketchy, but he lived 4 more years before being felled by cancer. A lot of his health issues were due to war wounds from WWII. His legs were all messed up and he wore two different sized shoes. When they start rationing care to guys like him they will basically saying 'thanks for all the work, paying taxes, bleeding for your country, but we don't need you anymore.'

I don't want to live in a country like that.

[bondjamesbond]

How do you say plus ca change in German?

[Texas resident]

Hey, isn’t teddy kennedy a candiate? He could be put in an oldsmobile and shoved off a bridge into a river somewhere in mass. What the hell, good for the goose.....

[Semperfiwife]

Planned Grandparenthood Clinics

[Halgr]

I pray to God that OBAMA gets his just desserts soon.

[C210N]

The 0bamunists are trying to ‘fix’ healthcare AND the pending Social Security meltdown in the same pogrom (sic!).

Its amazing how much of ALL the individual programs and efforts of these leftists dovetail with each other with an underlying agenda linking them all. From the Weatherman links to -9bama, and their touting the need to kill of 25 million... and that was many years ago. Hollywood preparing us to die by the millions in disasters (saw a preview today of an ameggedden type movie, to come out later in the summer). Helping in various ways nuke seeking whackjobs in Iran, NK... that constantly state the desire to wipe out Israel and South Korea. Then there is abortion... and this health care government-run euthenasia they are pushing. Destroying the economy is linked in too... perhaps indirectly, but it does raise unemployment while fanning flames of racism at the same time...

We NEED 2010, and need it now!

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

C'mon, America... you didn't really think they were going to stop at unborn babies, did you?

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Anyone who thinks the Terri case was not about this is deluded. She was the precedent.

Of course she was. I hope those who didn't get it then are starting to get it now.

[combat_boots]

I suggest you add these up. THe word ‘disabled’ is not used, but, it’s there.........

From the twitter threads:

“PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans. We’re next.”

PG 268 Line 1141 Fed Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 287 Line 14-25 PROOF that Government will ration HealthCare by mandating waiting periods for readmission.

PG 298 Line 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.

Pg335 L16-25,PG 336-339 Government mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HealthCare the way they want. Rationing.

PG 341 Line 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing into Government plan.

PG 354 Line 1177 Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 438 Section 1236 The Government will develop a patient decision making aid program that you & Dr. WILL use.

PG 460 Section 1302 Knock Knock - It’s the Government and I’m here with the Medical Home Program - YOUR home.

PG 460 Section 1302 The Government WILL provide medical services in your home. Paging Nurse Pelosi!!

PG 464 Lines 17-22 Independent Patient Center Home Medical Services - Drs. don’t have to be at your home just some directed by D

PG 469 Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

PG 476 19-20 Chapter 35/ title 44, (Privacy of personal records) shall not apply Home Medical Services. ACORN ACCESS

PG 489 Section 1308 Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage.

PG 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

PG 504 Line 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info) for ALL.

PG 525-620 deals with the Government basically taking over nursing homes,

PGs 525-620 deals with the Govt basically taking over nursing homes,long-term care facilities (think assisted living) through regulations of the facilities, the owners of sd facilities, the employees of sd facilities and even the land owners of that sd facilities reside on. Additionally as you read these 90+ pages you can come to the conclusion that any Health related svcs will be determined and rationed by the Govt for our senior citizens and others in nursing homes. This one post should do enough to raise awareness of the control the Govt is exerting over the older population of American citizens.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

PG 628 Section 1443 Government will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

PG 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups including Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HealthCare quality.

PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of HealthCare Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

Pg 719-720 Section 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Section 1639 Government Mandates Doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other HealthCare service.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Government certifications will apply to medicaid & CHIP (your kids)

Page 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal finances.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

PG 936 Government will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Performance Standards” Tell me what to eat?

PG 1001 The Government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

PG 1003 9-11 National Medical Dev Reg ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities” you WILL be tracked.

Oh, and TRICARE will go up.

[Gilbo_3]

I wonder where in that chart the racial type affirmative action quotas reside ???

throw white granny under the bus...

[dervish]

Read the Zeke Emanuel ‘Mengele’ principles for yourself:

Treating people equally

1. Lottery

Hard to corrupt; little information about recipients needed, Ignores other relevant principles

Military draft; schools; vaccination

Include

2. First-come, first-served

Protects existing doctor-patient relationships; little information about recipients needed, Favours wealthy, powerful, and well-connected; ignores other relevant principles

ICU beds; part of organ allocation

Exclude

Favouring the worst-off : prioritarianism

3. Sickest first

Aids those who are suffering right now; appeals to “rule of rescue”; makes sense in temporary scarcity; proxy for being worst off overall, Surreptitious use of prognosis; ignores needs of those who will become sick in future; might falsely assume temporary scarcity; leads to people receiving interventions only after prognosis deteriorates; ignores other relevant principles

Emergency rooms; part of organ allocation

Exclude

4. Youngest first

Benefits those who have had least life; prudent planners have an interest in living to old age

Undesirable priority to infants over adolescents and young adults; ignores other relevant principles, New NVAC/ACIP pandemic flu vaccine proposal

Include

Maximising total benefits: utilitarianism

5. Number of lives saved

Saves more lives, benefiting the greatest number; avoids need for comparative judgments about quality or other aspects of lives Ignores other relevant principles

Past ACIP/NVAC pandemic flu vaccine policy; bioterrorism response policy; disaster triage

Include

6. Prognosis or life-years saved

Maximises life-years produced Ignores other relevant principles, particularly distributive Principles

Penicillin allocation; traditional military triage (prognosis) and disaster triage (life-years saved)

Include

Promoting and rewarding social usefulness

7. Instrumental value

Helps promote other important values; future oriented, Vulnerable to abuse through choice of prioritized occupations or activities; can direct health resources away from health needs

Past and current NVAC/ACIP, pandemic fl u vaccine policy

Include — but only in some public health emergencies

8. Reciprocity

Rewards those who implemented important values; past oriented, Vulnerable to abuse; can direct health resources away from health needs; intrusive assessment process

Some organ donation policies

Include — only irreplaceable people who have suffered serious losses

By contrast, the complete lives system combines four morally relevant principles: youngest-fi rst, prognosis, lottery, and saving the most lives. In pandemic situations, it also allocates scarce interventions to people instrumental in realising these four principles. Importantly, it is not an algorithm, but a framework that expresses widely affirmed values: priority to the worst-off , maximising benefits, and treating people equally. To achieve a just allocation of scarce medical interventions, society must embrace the challenge of implementing a coherent multiprinciple framework rather than relying on simple principles or retreating to the status quo.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2301006/posts

[RasterMaster]

"Zer0 and the ‘RAT Party = Throw Grandma under the bus."

When Grandma won't die soon enough, the bus is no longer the mode of transport.

[ZULU]

These fiends are truly unbelievable.

[M203M4]

Giant ovens will make it complete.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Well said. and I like your tagline.

[Fu-fu2]

“The 0bamunists are trying to ‘fix’ healthcare AND the pending Social Security meltdown in the same pogrom.

Too many old folks? Too many infirm folks with no hope of improvement? Simple... Control their access to treatments and care. They’ll die quicker. VOILA! Fewer people drawing SocSec.

Problem solved...”

EXACTLY! That’s where the “savings” will come from. And the age of people who are affected can be lowered depending upon whether there is a “budget crisis.” Anyone approaching age 55 or older should be calling their congressmen and Senators telling them to vote NO to Obamacare!

[rawhide]

Isn’t this just another way of saying “forced euthanasia”. In other words: kill off the old people, the brain-dead, the bedridden, the paralyzed, the ones with dementia and Alzheimer’s, and such and such?

[combat_boots]

Tnx. I’ve had a lot of them. My first was ‘not to be Schiavoed, Greered or Felosed.’

Over the course of the last couple of weeks, there really is no other choice now. I also worked hard on my profile, which I have now changed, too.

Great compliment from an FR 98 class member.

Boots