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It’s time to give up on Iran and North Korea
Flopping Aces ^ | 08-02-09 | Scott Malensek

Posted on 08/02/2009 10:37:46 AM PDT by Starman417

President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America's adversaries Iran, North Korea and a few others. But for most of those states, it's time to give it up, and the Obama administration appears to realize that.

I agree. There's no point in trying carrots or stick diplomacy with Iran or North Korea. Diplomacy has failed. I do wonder, however, how the writer plans to deal w NKorea's nukes and Iran's nukes+terrorist ties? Just live with it, and wait for something to go wrong/hope that "sane" people like Kim and Ahmadinejad can be trusted w nuclear weapons? Or is the writer advocating support for military action since it's obvious that Iran and NKorea cannot be trusted w nuclear weapons, and obvious that diplomacy has failed.

So what is it? Now that we've established the long-held "neocon" claim that diplomacy w NKorea and Iran isn't possible-what is it?

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1 posted on 08/02/2009 10:37:46 AM PDT by Starman417
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"President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America's adversaries Iran, North Korea and a few others." WhatSay?
2 posted on 08/02/2009 10:40:25 AM PDT by cranked
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President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America's adversaries Iran, North Korea...

Well, if improved relations with those guys fail, perhaps -8bama can try elsewhere with better potential: How about adversaries of Honduras and Israel?

3 posted on 08/02/2009 10:40:44 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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What, exactly, is our policy? “Wishful thinking” is not a valid answer.


4 posted on 08/02/2009 10:41:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't anthropomorphize the robots. They hate that.)
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To: Starman417

“President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America’s adversaries Iran, North Korea and a few others....”

Uh, no, he isn’t. You don’t improve relations with barbaric tyrants who murder their own people by treating them as if they are no different than a civilized society that respects liberty and life.

What you do is artificially elevate them to a place at the table without making them change their ways...though WE have the upper hand.

Obammie the Commie is an anti-American ass-clown.


5 posted on 08/02/2009 10:41:50 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (It's soft tyranny, folks. It's smiley-faced fascism.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“.... You ask, What is our policy? I will say; “It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us: to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy.” You ask, What is our aim? I can answer with one word: Victory - victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival.” — Churchill


6 posted on 08/02/2009 10:44:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Starman417

President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America’s adversaries Iran, North Korea and a few others.


He was an idiot to even try and owes George Bush an apology.


7 posted on 08/02/2009 11:02:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“What, exactly, is our policy?”

HOPE! CHANGE! HOPEYCHANGE!

That not just “wishful thinking”.


8 posted on 08/02/2009 1:43:14 PM PDT by RBroadfoot
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“What, exactly, is our policy?”

HOPE! CHANGE! HOPEYCHANGE!

That not just “wishful thinking”.


9 posted on 08/02/2009 1:43:21 PM PDT by RBroadfoot
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“Let me make it clear, that, hmmm, we are going to - ahh - reset or rather rethink , hmmm, old positions and attitudes and ahhh, basically, you know, I’m happy to be your guest here in the White House, and change the dynamic. “ - future 0bama speech


10 posted on 08/03/2009 2:40:53 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't anthropomorphize the robots. They hate that.)
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