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This Year’s Greatest Television Moment: a most unexpected denunciation of ObamaCare
NewsReal Blog ^ | August 14, 2009 | John Perazzo

Posted on 08/15/2009 9:49:41 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative

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To: HorowitzianConservative
Schultz then proceeded to explain that these ministers’ failure to publicly endorse socialized medicine constituted a betrayal of Christ’s message:

I'm pretty sure Jesus never said we should worship the holy socialized government.

21 posted on 08/15/2009 11:17:22 AM PDT by DejaJude
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To: HorowitzianConservative
This Schultz guy is an idiot. Did Jesus ask the Roman's for healthcare? Did Jesus ask them for bread for the poor? Pffft!

And that was, by no means, a smackdown. Jesus did not concern himself with the politics of Rome. He dealt directly with the people. The left only calls on HIM when they need Him to further an agenda He does not share. Christians should help the needy (not government), and they would do more if their taxes weren't killing them. Cash 4 Clunkers did damage to charities but they want Jesus to help them pass more socialism?! They don't know who he is.

22 posted on 08/15/2009 11:20:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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Hey Ed Schultz ? you said in your video that this country was founded on Judea Christian principles .. haven't you heard ? Obama said that America is not a Christian nation.
Which is it liberals ? is it ? or not ? was this nation founded on Christian principles or not ? can't have it both ways.

23 posted on 08/15/2009 11:22:15 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Grunthor
He said " True Christian leaders " need to get engaged and support.

24 posted on 08/15/2009 11:25:13 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

I watched this RAT on the video

First, the Constitution does not empower the Federal Government to be involved in our health care, it is unconstitutional. Period. Game over. If they do it, then our only response needs to be to force our States to use the 10th Amendment and not participate. If the Feds force the issue after that, then a State’s only alternative would be to leave the union. If the Constitutional framework is no longer being honored, the contract binding us together is obviously null and void.

Second, as others have pointed out. I’m not very impressed with an atheist (think satan supporter) being deceptive about what my obligations are. Naturally, he has them wrong. I have a Christian and moral obligation to help those in need. Having goons from the government steal enslave me and use the fruits of my labor for redistribution regardless of the excuse is still theft and against God. Coveting is still a sin.

Third, hussein is Christian? Really? I see more evident of a satan worshiping muzzie. I see a lot of evidence for an atheist marxist. And lots of evidence for black liberation theology. Do not see any evidence for Christianity.


25 posted on 08/15/2009 11:25:55 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Thanks for the post, because if this happened on MSNBC, I didn’t see it, and never will. It’s like reading Pravda; you always know what it’s going to say before you read it.


26 posted on 08/15/2009 11:29:23 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Auntie Mame
" He asks what would Jesus do about sick people.

Interesting, these men of “God” didn’t even touch on the fact that Jesus would heal them voluntarily!

He wouldn’t look into the crowd and demand that they rabble rouse the “government” to pay the medicine man. "

Was there ever a time that Jesus asked for payment or money for a blessing, or healing ? nope... all he asked was for their faith to believe.
In most cases, Jesus gave back more than what the people came to receive.. i.e. 2 loaves of bread and 5 fishes..
27 posted on 08/15/2009 11:31:09 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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Remember when candidate Edwards said with stem cell research Christopher Reeve would get up out of his wheelchair and walk again?

With 0bamaCare, Christopher Reeve never would have made it out of the ER.

28 posted on 08/15/2009 11:35:51 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Maybe so, but I was responding to THIS;

”These Christian leaders,” said Schultz, “need to get engaged and support a **Christian president**”


29 posted on 08/15/2009 11:37:19 AM PDT by Grunthor (Obama has delusions of adequacy.)
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we will soon have a greatest hits montage of people trashing the messiah, and another of his bumbling, stumbling nn answers when he goes off the prompter.


30 posted on 08/15/2009 11:37:55 AM PDT by milwguy
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To: Grunthor
Ed Schultz, typical Liberal delusional loony fruit loops.
31 posted on 08/15/2009 11:41:25 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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Let's change one name and the issue and see how well this goes over.....

"I think it is incumbant on these major Christian leaders - Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Franklin Graham, and James Dobson - to back our Christian President George W. Bush and his attempts to make certain that our students get the education they need by allowing them to receive vouchers to attend the school of their choice."

How would THAT be received?

32 posted on 08/15/2009 11:41:55 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (I may not be John Galt or Jim Thompson, but I AM THE MOB!)
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33 posted on 08/15/2009 11:43:03 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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bookmark for later.


34 posted on 08/15/2009 11:50:55 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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Wow. Where to begin... so many conflicting principles, so little time. But a great response from the Bishop, Thank You Lord.
Guess we can just file this under Typical Liberal ANY Means to the End.

Tatt


35 posted on 08/15/2009 11:51:38 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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Gee Ed if government-run healthcare is Christian requirement what about that old separation of Church and State thing you on the left are alway yammering about?
36 posted on 08/15/2009 11:55:27 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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Soooooo....Dems are now using ‘civility’ as a euphemism for passive acceptance of the overthrow of freedom. They don’t understand how this moves us - they are incapable of even conjecturing about WHY we value freedom but they plan to take from us and keep it for themselves. IF they really want us to behave as if our freedom really has no value and no one is trying to rob us of it, then Dems should at least try to pretend that they don’t want to steal it from us and use it to ‘rule’ us.
As I understand it, there is no real bill out now because that would give us ammunition to point to it and say specifically why we don’t want it. There are various drafts we can point to and decry but then we are accused of making a big deal about nothing -there is no bill. If we are civil, only the Obamacare propogandists will be heard. If we are ‘civil’ then the Dems return in the fall to swiftly pull a bill out of hiding and sign it. This is our only chance to say anything at all to our ‘representative government’. Apparently, they imagine that we ‘should’ quietly listen when lied to and let them do what they want to us. Everything else is incivility.


37 posted on 08/15/2009 12:05:47 PM PDT by ransomnote
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It’s always amusing/pathetic when libs try to talk authoritatively about religion. Remember when Howard Dean said his favorite book of the NT was the Book of Job?


38 posted on 08/15/2009 12:27:33 PM PDT by matt1234
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Let's see. Jesus fed the multitudes with a few loaves and fishes, and then . . . . when they followed him to get some MORE loaves and fishes he . . . . became a full-time community organizer, opened a soup kitchen, and spent the rest of his time feeding loaves and fishes to the poor like any good, concerned liberal would!

Wait a minute. Maybe he didn't.

I guess Jesus wasn't a very committed liberal. Obama would have probably not named him Secretary of HUD.

39 posted on 08/15/2009 12:38:14 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Oh, how I LOVE the instruction to give your alms in secret -- it is so incredibly wise on so many levels. True story: a man with a large family who was doing moderately well saw that a neighboring family was weathering some very tough times. It was in the early 1960s, when $100 was a pretty big chunk of change. The man withdrew $100 from his bank account, put it in an envelope, and anonymously delivered it to the neighbor's home. The neighbor received the $100, which helped his family tremendously, yet never learned who gave him the money.

THEREFORE:
1. The neighbor never felt indebted to an individual for the indignity of needing and taking charity, and was relived of the burden of worrying about how he was going to repay the giver some way, some how

2. The neighbor was inclined to feel kindly toward ALL his neighbors and friends, because he couldn't know which of them had given him the money

Because I know of this true story, I refrain from criticizing wealthy people or anyone else, liberal or conservative, for not giving to charities -- we not only cannot know whether or not the ultra-rich do alms, it's not our business to know.

40 posted on 08/15/2009 1:35:03 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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