Obama, the President of the U.S., Is Currently Also a British Citizen

A Place to Ask Questions To Get the Right Answers ^ | April 7, 2009 | Mario Apuzzo

[Spaulding]

I assume you mean well AndyBear. Attorney Appuzo has spent two decades as an immigration lawyer. His lawsuit for Cmdr. Kerchner and other plaintiffs (in case something should happen to Kerchner) is easily the most compelling against Obama, Congress, Pelosi and Cheney, for failing in their duty to validate Obama’s eligibility. Yes, there are provisions and the Constitution and laws which compel the validation of a presidential candidate, as well as equal protection violations since Congress investigated McCain thoroughly, and failed to do so, though explicitly asked by Cmdr. Kerchner before the election.

Invalid documents may exist. We don't know - probably by design. About Obama’s lack of two citizen parents we do know. We also know that he is a British Citizen. Granted, laws are not a tantalizing as guesses about parentage, phony documents, Kenyan great aunts, Mom's whereabouts when Malcolm-X visited Seattle. The law, if we observe it, is clear about our founder's intent to insure allegiance of a commander in chief. Whether British Common Law or U.S. common law as established in many cases, we require that the parents of a commander in chief be citizens. Green card holders are not citizen.

The Kerchner v. Obama lawsuit has been in the New Jersey District Court since August 3rd. You can read the pleadings at http://puzo1.blogspot.com

[RummyChick]

Go ask this Lawyer to put up an analysis of just how he is going to get around the fact that the marriage to Ann was VOID Ab Initio. How will he prove that Sr was domiciled in Hawaii. Sr was clearly only here temporarily for his schooling.

If he can prove that Sr was domiciled in Hawaii...how is he going to get around the confusing law that talks about a SUBSEQUENT marriage after birth that legitimizes ILLEGITIMATE babies. Where’s the case law on it.

This guy hasn’t done his homework or if he has..he is ignoring it.

He can start here
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/nationalityinstructions/nisec2gensec/legitimacy?view=Binary

[RummyChick]

If he has spent two decades as an immigration lawyer..why does he ignore the fact that the marriage to Ann was Void Ab Initio.

Where is his discussion of legitamcy laws as it pertains to Obama’s UK citizenship? Where is the analysis?

[MilspecRob]

Both parents must be American citizens.

No RPA what you really mean is that both parents need to be white.

[shield]

bfl

[rolling_stone]

So a child of one United States Citizen is a Natural Born Citizen?

[Sunshine54]

Have you ever see the Leonardo DiCaprio movie, “Catch Me If You Can”? Having Obama in the White House feels like we are living that movie.

Wasn’t he at one time known as “Barry Soetero” when his mother remarried and moved him to Indonesia?
Does anyone know if he was adopted by his step-father?

[usmcobra]

Were not most of the Founding Fathers born British? And to be frank, this is not really a path I would walk down in an open debate with Obama supporters...who would hardly miss this point, and would likely further suggest the Founding Fathers may have been scandalized by Obama's race more than anything else.

The difference is that the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution an exception that allowed only them to be president the so called "at the time of the signing" exemption.

[RummyChick]

Didn’t say that...and notice I amended my post to bring up your point about Hawaiian law -that as an operation of law...children born of a bigamous marriage would be considered legitimate.

Note I said as an operation of law ...because that is relevant in some of the legal discussion of British statutes as it concerns legitimacy.

I just want to see Apuzzo address the bigamous marriage and tell everyone how he is going to get around it - complete with law citations.

[SERKIT]

If Barry runs again for President in 2012, are we going to have enough Rs to truly challenge him on round 2 since they all blew it on round 1 (first term)?

[Gay State Conservative]

I’m no lawyer but it seems to me that the possibility that Hussein’s a dual citizen is a factor in determining if he’s a “natural born citizen” or not.

[USAHOME]

So a child of one United States Citizen is a Natural Born Citizen?

Not necessarily.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--please.

I've been following a lot of this on WND.NET and Orly Taitz's website (http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/) and I'm doing a lot of this from memory. I even looked up the requirements on the web from the constitution but can't find the site I saw.

If he wasn't born in Hawaii, then in the 1960's, the U.S. citizen has to have lived in the U.S. for 10 years, 5 of those after the age of 14. His mother wasn't old enough to have lived in the U.S. for 5 years after 14. So if he wasn't born here, he would've taken the father's nationality, I think.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this--I don't want to state anything that's not right.

As for Barry Soetoro, according to what I read, he was an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim in Indonesia. In Indonesia, all other citizenships have to be renounced once you become a citizen. So even if he was a U.S. citizen and what I read is right (that he was an Indonesian citizen), he can't be a U.S. citizen from that alone.

Regardless if my information isn't right, there are so many questions, that if it were me trying to get a driver's license, they'd throw me out--let alone presidency. So why is he president again? And why has he spent so much money hiding all his information?

[USAHOME]

That’s WND.COM. Sorry. I keep messing that up.

[rolling_stone]

Well if It was me I would do the research and make the other side make that argument as a defense, if they don't present it as a defense no need to go down that road...if they do a big cat is out of the bag...

My other point was even if somehow legally Obama was illegitimate and did not for whatever reason obtain citizenship of another country at birth, he still did not have two USC parents. Parent in the Natural Born Citizen “definition” would be his biological father at birth even if his father was stateless and obie was illegitimate. Yes it would muddy up the waters to some but not to me...Responsibility has its priveledges.

[rolling_stone]

,,,,So a child of one United States Citizen is a Natural Born Citizen?,,,,,

I appreciate your input, Rummy Chick and I and others have been discussing what if Obama was illegitimate because his father Obamination Sr. was married in Kenya (tribal marriage or otherwise)before he supposedly married Stanley An in Hawaii..It could be a void marriage due to the fact Obie Sr was not free to marry in Hawaii as that would be polygamy, but he could have married in Kenya and been a legal marriage as polygamy was legal there... You are right about the 5 years after 14 however if the mother was unwed it is only one year residence in US. That pertains to US statutory citizenship which is different than Natural Born Citizen for Constitutional purposes. Welcome to the discussion. here is someone’s thoughts on the matter many other detailed papers have been written detailing court cases, constitutional history legislative history 14th amendment etc..the question IMO needs to be decided by the US Supreme Court. We are getting quite a legal and investigative workout as well as history lessons here!

http://birthers.org/misc/logic.htm

[reed13k]

Untrue - my daughters were born in the states to me (a natural citizen) and my wife (a japanese citizen). She holds dual citizenship until 18, then must decide which as Japan does not recognize dual citizenship in Adults. I have the birth certificates to prove they were born in the states to me and that is all that is required to be a Natural Born Citizen. I have confirmed with legal authority that my interpretations are correct.

[rolling_stone]

just to throw another iron in the fire, according to Muslim law a child born within 6 months of marriage is illegitimate..February 2 August 4..

[Art in Idaho]

"Can we reasonably conclude that the Founding Fathers, who had just fought a war with Great Britain and who did not want a foreigner to occupy the Office of President, would have allowed a British citizen, who carries that status not only from birth but also to the time he occupies the Office, to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its Military?"

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, . . in the House on March 9, 1866:  "I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Consti tution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents [plural, meaning two] not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Consti tution itself, a natural born citizen." Obama's father was a foreigner. He has a natural born allegiance to the land of his father. This condition means by definition that he cannot ever have a Natural Born allegiance exclusively to the USA. It means he can not legally command our US military. He was never a Natural Born Citizen of the USA and never will be.

Also, here is the response from an attorney practicing in the federal court system regarding Obama and the "natural born citizen" question. He said it's really quite simple. Natural Born Citizen has two conditions that are required to be met: (1) Born in the U.S. Mainland (soil of the U.S. - 50 states) and (2) Born to 2 American citizen parents. He also said natural-born citizenship is the main issue, not the birth certificate. That's it. So now what?

[MHGinTN]

We have only Berry Soetoro’s word that his father was a Kenyan/Brit. Frankly, I don’t trust the liar as far as I could spit him. There is indication that he was adopted formally by Lolo Soetoro, Indonesian, making Barry an Indonesian citizen. It is also likelt that he used his Indonesian citizenship to game the college system in 1979 since his mother’s divorce from Lolo in 1980 shows he was still a legal dependent of Lolo. It is time this lying sonofabitch was required to open his historical records, from birth to current driver’s license. Allowing him to continue tossing U.S. the finger should not be accpetable tot he majority of Americans.

[MHGinTN]

Powerful video. Must just frost the obots bottoms who lurk around FR spinning for the affirmative action liar-in-chief! ... ‘Course they’re so dishonest, they probably wouldn’t listen to the whole twelve plus minutes.