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I have very mixed feelings about libertarians, and I don't know much about this blog -- but this was the only thing I could find that was a response to this meme making the rounds on Facebook. (Hopefully there will be more responses to come.)

I was thinking I would make my status a variation of that last paragraph:

"Simply making others pay costs that someone else can't afford will do nothing to solve that problem -- it just shifts the burden, creates new problems, and exacerbates the problem for future generations."

But of course, then we sound like heartless b@$t@rd$.

Anybody else have another idea?

1 posted on 09/04/2009 8:27:12 AM PDT by CMoran325
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They don’t die. It’s USA law that any emergency room must fully treat, regardless the ability to pay.


2 posted on 09/04/2009 8:28:20 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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My FB reply:

The status update people are posting originated from DU, and it is foolish. No one will die because they cannot afford health insurance, because lifesaving care without evidence of insurability is guaranteed by state law, nationwide. Moreover, no one... should go broke because they are being forced to pay for the someone else’s health insurance. Period.


3 posted on 09/04/2009 8:29:10 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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No one should HAVE to pay for someone else’s health care.


5 posted on 09/04/2009 8:30:28 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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On the other hand, why should individuals be responsible for another person’s healthcare?

Many people choose not to purchase healthcare. So, why is that my fault?

I have healthcare insurance. But do I get the same healthcare as Ted Kennedy got, or Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and the other Liberal Elites get? Of course not.

The sham of all of this is that the Liberal Elite takes away healthcare from the wealthier non-rich and gives to the less wealthy non-rich. They will NEVER take it away from themselves.

So, if the rich won’t share, but should we be forced AT GUNPOINT to share?

Gunpoint? Yes, if you don’t do what they say and pay all the taxes, they will eventually show up to your house will lethal force.


7 posted on 09/04/2009 8:31:35 AM PDT by whitedog57
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No nation should go broke because you won’t pay for a freakin’ check-up.


8 posted on 09/04/2009 8:31:51 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (No health care reform without TORT reform!)
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No one dies because they are legally denied health care...

If you walk into an ER in any hospital in this country, ANY, they are legally required to give you care, period.

This argument is typical liberal claptrap, its just not true.


9 posted on 09/04/2009 8:31:54 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I responded to two of these posts yesterday. I don’t know their source. In sum, I said that (1) nobody dies because they can’t afford healthcare (2) some people do go broker because they can’t afford it, but usually that’s because they CHOOSE to not buy health insurance (3) if you are in poverty, you are ALREADY covered by Medicaid (4) the real issue is NON-CATASTROPHIC care — why should others be expected to pay for the routine care of your OWN BODY ???


11 posted on 09/04/2009 8:32:47 AM PDT by dinoparty
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ANSWER: Try... just try to do to lawyers what they are trying to do to doctors.

A Doctor’s Plan for Legal Industry Reform [An awesome criticism/parody of Obamacare!]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204731804574387021307651050.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2331832/posts


12 posted on 09/04/2009 8:32:53 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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Will Obama Care deliver unlimited resources to each and every sick and dying person in America?

No?

Then under Obama Care, people will die because we cannot afford their Health Care.

That stuff doesn't change. What changes is that the government will steal additional money from your pocket and you will end up waiting longer to receive increasingly scarce services. And THEY promote their plan as better and more moral. It is neither.

13 posted on 09/04/2009 8:33:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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If you want short and to the point, how about:

Buy your own damn health care.
14 posted on 09/04/2009 8:33:32 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (No health care reform without TORT reform!)
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The proper reply: Why would you want to deny your children and grandchildren the lifestyle you live now?


16 posted on 09/04/2009 8:34:09 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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“No one should die because they can’t afford health care

They don't die in America, NOW, but once socialized medicine takes over they will!!

17 posted on 09/04/2009 8:34:10 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (We knew a revolution was coming, but who knew it would be started by rowdy senior citizens! lol...)
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No one should die because they make poor health choices.

Unless they are adults free to chose.

No one should die because doctors make mistakes.

Unless we recognize that all humans are fallible and imperfect.

No one should die because they did something risky.

Unless we allow people to direct their own lives.

This can go one forever if one wants to do so but the statements are meaningless. Freedom vs. control is the issue; the fascists want to control your lives.

18 posted on 09/04/2009 8:34:15 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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I almost wrote this, but declined to post...too many professional contacts I would rather not confront.

“No one should die because government health care won’t treat them, and no one should go broke paying for other peoples’ insurance. If you agree, please post this as your status for the rest of the day.”

Wasn’t fully sold on it. I would like to post something but want it to be bullet proof.


20 posted on 09/04/2009 8:36:26 AM PDT by ilgipper
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If you really need treatment, by law you get it.

Most people I know that have died because they don’t have insurance do so because they can’t afford preventive tests like colonoscopy, etc. But under socialized medicine, the wait for these things are so long it is almost as bad.


22 posted on 09/04/2009 8:37:14 AM PDT by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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No one should die because their doctor was sued by an ambulance-chasing attorney. No doctor should go broke paying for blood sucking trial lawyers.


23 posted on 09/04/2009 8:37:22 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (No health care reform without TORT reform!)
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All of us should not have to die early for PelosiObamaCare.

All of us should not be subject to the tyranny of government for the “promise”, nay, the outright FANTASY that “one person won’t die” bs.

We are all going to die!

Let’s die FREE!


24 posted on 09/04/2009 8:37:24 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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As others have pointed out, emergency departments must stabilize and treat all comers, regardless of ability to pay. The law is called the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act or EMTALA.


25 posted on 09/04/2009 8:37:53 AM PDT by rwt60
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In the US it is law that no one can be turned away for medical treatment on their inability to pay. This comment that is becoming the meme is attempting to obfuscate the issue. It is an attempt to guilt people into agreeing with letting big brother take over the system.

A friend had a good comeback. “No one should die because some government bureaucrat peon mingles in your personal health care decisions”.


26 posted on 09/04/2009 8:37:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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How about:

"No one should die because their mother doesn't want to be punished with a baby."

28 posted on 09/04/2009 8:39:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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