Naturalman, since you have seen oodles and oodles of Kenyan *and* Australian birth certificates, could you show us some?
Not 'oodles and oodles', somewhere between about twenty and thirty. But no, I can't show them to you. I saw them while I was in the Navy where at times part of my job was to sight identification documents for potential recruits to the Royal Australian Navy. While we did photocopy these documents, they went into files, not into my own personal collection. The Navy would have rather frowned on me doing that.
On the Bomford threads, various AU BC’s were shown, and they weren’t all the same. Just a little snippet of info. But since your eyes have witnessed so many Kenyan BC, certainly you can find one of them or even a few, and show us!
What, you want me to break into HMAS Cerberus and go through files there (actually, they've probably been moved somewhere else) looking for birth certificates I saw twenty years ago? Sorry, I don't think that's realistic.
Otherwise, you want us to merely accept your word, just as 0bama wants us to accept his word.
Yes, in essence I am asking you to accept my word. But only because it would be of benefit to you if you did. It would stop you being taken in by a fraud. If I saw a game of three card monte going on, I'd probably tell people that's a fake as well, but not being a street magician or huckster, probably wouldn't be able to prove it. But I know based on what I've seen that the alleged Obama certificate modelled off the Bomford certificate is not real, and I'm going to warn people of that. Whether I can provide all the evidence that informs my belief based on what I've seen or not. I can't show you all of what I've seen - but I can tell you what I've seen.
And, also wondering how was it that you just happened to have seen with your own eyes 20 to 30 Kenyan BCs, when they are so unusual and hard to find.
They are certainly difficult to find online. Not so difficult when you're involved in admininstering an office, part of whose job it is to look at the birth certificates of potential recruits for the Australian Defence Force. I saw hundreds, probably thousands of birth certificates in this capacity - more Australian and British than any others, but not all potential recruits were Australian born. I saw birth certificates from all over the world, probably including most Commonwealth countries. I also saw some fakes at times, which I was expected to be able to identify.
Thank you for your reply and your politeness, which I did not exhibit in my comment to you.
I need to moderate my tone sometimes, my apologies. (i.e not shoot my mouth off about things I know nought about.)