[SvenMagnussen]

Of course his birth record was amended, he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. An adoption begets an amended birth record.

For those that are following the story, you know BO Sr. did not respond to his divorce summons. I think we can reasonably assume BO Sr. did not respond to an adoption summons. Consequently, BO Sr. could have objected to the adoption when he found out about it.

But the Soetoro Family didn’t worry about it because they were moving to Indonesia to spend the rest of their lives there. Why wouldn’t Ann Soetoro renounce Barry’s US citizenship? Barry had to have Indonesian citizenship to attend public school. Besides, if they went back to Hawaii, BO Sr. may show up and take Barry away from them.

Little did Ann and Barry know that a few years later the marriage to Lolo would begin to fail. Ann had to figure out a way to get Barry back to Hawaii without BO Sr. finding out and taking custody of Barry. So Ann used her contacts with the Ford Foundation to have Barry declared as an orphan or abandoned child with a US citizen grandmother back at Hawaii.

As a service to Madelyn Dunham, the US State Department began expediting refugee travel papers for Barry to get him to his grandmother in Hawaii. Not only would taxpayers pay for Barry’s flight, refugee travel documents, but also an escort to make sure the grandmother took guardianship of Barry.

Barry used his refugee status to take advantage of scholarships and other grants reserved for orphaned or abandoned children from third world countries.

[El Gato]

Why wouldn’t Ann Soetoro renounce Barry’s US citizenship?

Because under US law, a parent cannot renounce the citizenship of a child. The child can't do it for themselves either, generally until they are 18.

Kinda blows your whole theory doesn't it.

Yes it's true that Lolo may have declared Barry to be adopted, and he may have been adopted, either in Hawaii, or Indonesia. Either way, it would not change Barry's citizenship under US law, Nor would any naturalization in Indonesia, in spite of Indonesian law. See State Department 7 FAM 1290

Of course what would be interesting if Barack Obama's legal name is really Barry Soetoro or if Barry himself had it changed back to Barack sometime within the last few years, especially if it was shortly before June 2007.

But as I see it there are only two ways BHO is not an NBC, one of which we know is true. One, he born outside the US, two, he was not born of two US citizens. Either is sufficient. Being outside the US is easier for most to understand, yet some even deny that that makes him not an NBC "since his mother was a citizen"(We know that is not enough to even be a citizen at all, let alone a natural born one). The double condition, parents citizens and born under US sovereignty, seems excessive to some, although it makes perfectly good sense if you put yourself in the position of the framers in 1787, who were worried primarily about foreign influence in the office of commander in chief.

[Vendome]

that is a great story. Where did it come from?

[BP2]

In my research regarding the Hawaiian Vital Statistics office, they are renown for their sloppy record keeping. I offer the following from the book "In the Name of Hawaiians":

SO, I pose the following:

Let's say that an investigation uncovers that at one point in the 60s or 70s, the ORIGINAL birth certificate was lost due to internal clerical error. IOW, it's the Health Dept's fault, not Obama's.

Health Dept policy likely would allow for subsequent affidavits from his mother and perhaps his grandmother to meet required an evidentiary paper trail. They're not going to arbitrarily yank away his (or anyone's) US citizenship due to their own error - they'll use their own procedural manual (Vital Statistics, Registration & Records, Chapter 117, Administrative Rules) to fix the problem.

How would that affect the eligibility suits (from a prima facie standpoint)?

Although I am 99 percent sure Obama was NOT born in Hawaii, I'm trying to think ahead of potential obstacles they'd throw up to offer "plausible deniability" - and I see something like this as a likely result. I think that like nearly all of the other corruption surrounding him, there may be a "reasonable" and "innocent" explanation that doesn't implicate him to allow him a means to wiggle away.

[danamco]

Now don’t you need a Passport or similar document to make that transition from Indonesia to the U.S., Hawaii???