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To: Thickman
"I do not believe that McIntyre's preliminary post provides sufficient evidence to doubt the reality of unusually high summer temperatures in the last decades of the 20th century. "

There's a strong mathematical/scientific refutation. Note there is no proposed release of his selection method(s) either. Weak indeed.

2 posted on 10/01/2009 8:33:55 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2
"Weak indeed. "

Oh, yeah, not peer reviewed either.

3 posted on 10/01/2009 8:34:40 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2
Never-the-less, the IPCC has based its apocalyptic "hockey stick" chart of rising global temperatures that, it now turns out, is based on the historic concentric rings on exactly 12 trees. Count 'em, twelve sets of rings.

Billions of dollars ripped from the coffers of the rich countries and showered on the developing nations, industries crippled, carbon sacrificing, electricity plants shut down, etc., etc., etc. .....based on 12 trees somewhere in Russia?

It's almost laughable, if it weren't so sickening. Is it just me....or have we been had?

14 posted on 10/01/2009 9:22:13 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Paladin2

Especially when it comes hot on the heels of this admission:

“I note that McIntyre qualifies the presentation of his version(s) of the chronology by reference to a number of valid points that require further investigation. Subsequent postings appear to pay no heed to these caveats. Whether the McIntyre version is any more robust a representation of regional tree growth in Yamal than my original, remains to be established.”

Had he the true faith in his convictions he would have simply pointed out where McIntyre’s analysis were wrong.

It’s not like the fate of the world’s economy depends on this minor detail, is it?


18 posted on 10/01/2009 9:36:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Paladin2; All

Can anyone tell me where Yamal is located. I have lived in the same mid-Atlantic states town since 1961. I would say that for at least the last 20 years, the winters have been much milder on average than they were the first 20 years I lived here. Also, the summers do not seem to be quite as hot. I think the warmer winters are somewhat warmer than the summers are cooler. Probably average out to a net gain in temperature. Can’t speak for other areas of the globe.


52 posted on 11/22/2009 9:50:13 PM PST by gleeaikin
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