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If not even a marriage certificate lists “bride” and “groom” and these labels are not found anywhere on a Hawaiian birth certificate, then I don't know what Fukino is trying to communicate.

I've seen some state marriage APPLICATIONS and CERTIFICATES that say "bride" and "groom", but now in the day of gay marriage, it normally says “party” or is blank.

We really would need to see a marriage certificate from Hawaii 1960s to determine what would have been the norm.

Fukino has NOT been helpful in this whole ordeal - I can't see why she'd suddenly start. I DO see her trying to “help” Obama by adding that there was a “Bride” and “Groom”, trying to bolster her proclamation to the world that he is a “natural born American citizen.”

I'm thinking of several possibilities:

- Ann Dunham and Barack SR applied for a marriage LICENSE when she discovered she was pregnant (circa Dec 60 - Feb 61), but never followed through with it, perhaps after she found out that Obama SR was married back in Kenya. To avoid having a "fatherless" bastard child, she filed what she had when Obama was born with the state up to a year after birth as state law allows - ergo, bride/groom ... vs husband/wife or mother/father

- the marriage did NOT take place in Hawaii, which is why no record can be found in Hawaii . In lieu of a Hawaii Marriage Certificate, I can see a Clerk in the 1960s accepting a signed affidavit that she could have forged with Obama SR's name as proof of marriage. That same document could have been used for the 1964 divorce, and later if she applied for Welfare, as she chose not to request child support in the both the '64 and '80 Divorce filings.

- an adoption or name change, where the Marriage Certificate/Application/Affidavit is sealed with the rest of the trial paperwork with the Hawaii Family Court. Obama JR could have been born Barack Hussein Dunham or something similar. If there was an associated name change to Barrack Hussein Obama II, all of those records would be sealed as Statute and Hawaii Family Court Rules require.

- and many other variations.

An important note:
IF the Dept of Health is NOW so forthcoming with Birth Record INDEX data via UIPA requests, perhaps we should make some more requests - starting with the Nordyke twins to see if their Birth Record INDEX says they have a “bride” and “groom” vs. a "mother and father" (MY bet is on the latter):

Name	Location of Birth	Birth Cert #	Date/Time Born
Barack Hussein Obama II	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10641	Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm
Susan Elizabeth Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10637	Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm
Gretchen Carter Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10638	Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm

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Rememeber too that the Nordyke twins certificate was filed 3 days *after* BHO Jr’s COLB image indicates his was. Yet his file number is still lower than theirs?

I've seen some state marriage APPLICATIONS and CERTIFICATES that say "bride" and "groom", but now in the day of gay marriage, it normally says “party” or is blank.

The Hawaii Marriage License Application form, today's version, says "GROOM (MALE)" and "BRIDE (FEMALE)". Kinda quaint isn't it? :)

Anything is possible.

But intuitively, what fits the known timeline is that during the winter break at U of Hawaii, they went to Kenya and were married there. No one, even the investigators that were reporting to Israel Insider, has looked at the marriage in Kenya issue.

They did it that way because marriage in Hawaii would have constituted the crime of bigamy. In Kenya, a second wife is just part of the landscape.

If they didn't do a real civil law marriage somewhere, why did she spend the money on a divorce? The birth certificate was necessitated by the fact that they were in a real divorce proceeding instead of a simple annulment which would have been quicker and less costly.

As some one continues to point out, there is no evidence anywhere that they ever lived together after February of 1961 or for that matter any other time--so but for her affidavit in the marriage proceeding, you might have the legal argument that they weren't really even in a common law marriage.

They give you a marriage date--if they were going to just rely on a common law relationship in Hawaii, or a license, why did they use February instead of January or December or even November or October when they told the senior Dunham's they were going to get married?

The date they pick is in the winter break period--at the end of the period. Why did they do it then? Because they had a trip to get to where they were getting married coupled with other necessary arrangements.

Further, after that date, Stanley Ann disappears--she isn't anywhere again until August. He was in Hawaii going to school--his whereabouts were known and she wasn't there living with him. Where was she?