Colorado Springs Housing Authority 2009 - Shawank! Not your father's "Housing Projects"

Self ^ | 16 Oct 2009 | William Burke

[LomanBill]

The Projects - Colorado Springs style

The Colorado Springs Housing Authority owns more than 350+ properties.

Observe the City wants to TRIPLE the property taxes of private property owners; while these City-owed rental properties are Tax-Exempt.

16-OCT-2009

El Paso County Parcel 6311110002

From the comments on this story [facade] propped up by the Colorado Springs Gazette

http://www.gazette.com/articles/city-63798-government-story.html

valueappraiser wrote:
wm25burke....
You mentioned multi-family community development....

Here is an example of just one of the city owned residential properties...7220 Austin Bluffs Parkway...80 units in 8 buildings on 4.08 acres. These units were constructed in the year 2000 and purchased new by the city housing authority. Purchase price is not indicated by the assessors record, nor does it say who constructed them. The assessor has the 2009 market value at over 5 million dollars, but, of course, no taxes are paid on this land or the improvements.

You can check this out for yourself on the El Paso County Assessor web site -

http://asr.elpasoco.com/

then click on "parcel record search" and enter schedule # 6311110002 in the appropriate box.

[LomanBill]

>>What a great city...especially not worth trashing!

Indeed. Unfortunately the purple-hued attitude hovering like a fog in Mr. Hughes’ Federally Funded West-Side “Utopia” has ooozed over I25 and is probing Eastward - as we can see upon the sidewalk of Acacia Park.

As is the case in the state legislature, well-funded Rainbow miscreants in key positions can do great damage.

Nonetheless, my family likes it here; and I intend to fight for the Conservation of what was and is still good about Colorado Springs... if not Colorado in general.

[LomanBill]

>>They need your money for their lucrative
>>retirement pensions.

Well Colorado Springs has a lovely collection of 350+ “Housing Authority” Rental properties they can sell off... before I willingly allow them to poke their beak into my self-funded, and limited, retirement milk and apple wagon.

If they want more Pie, let them have a bake sale first from the ones they’ve got hidden in the cupboard.

[CIDKauf]

Water...the issue here in CS. What about Frying Pnan / Arkansas project. Probably the most successful and expensive water project ever.

[CIDKauf]

Agreed. No way let them tax you with fees...etc...

[CIDKauf]

You do remember Dave’s bake sale?

[LomanBill]

>>You do remember Dave’s bake sale?

No. I grew up in Denver, spent 20+ years supporting my wife’s teaching in Lutheran Schools out in Californistan, and then escaped “home” 2 1/2 years ago to what I thought was still the conservative state I grew up in....

...only to find the folks who Californistaned California had out-flanked me and were busy Californistaning Colorado.

Where can I learn about Dave’s Bake Sale?

[CIDKauf]

Wow. Ft Collins, CO. in circa ‘85 when Rush Limbaugh helped hold a bake sale for schools with a school teacher named Dave. “If you want to build a jet plane, then hold a bake sale, for that’s what we’re doing to educate your kids”.

[dragnet2]

Well Colorado Springs has a lovely collection of 350+ “Housing Authority” Rental properties they can sell off..

They'll triple your property taxes and double your vehicle registration fees before dumping their cash cow assets. The only sale they intend on having will be to sell the legitimate citizens out.

[LomanBill]

>>Water...the issue here in CS

1st need.

Thar’s Gold in them thar hills... Liquid Gold.

Got Water Wars?

>>Probably the most successful and
>>expensive water project ever.

Not familiar with it; but I do recall, growing up, lots of talk about the Big Thompson Project.

[CIDKauf]

Be a water lawyer in Colorado. Very lucrative.

[LomanBill]

Ahh, looks like it was “Dan’s” Bakesale - not Dave’s?

Not much detail on the WWW via google though. Too bad.

Somebody who’s familiar should write it up before it’s lost from memory.

[LomanBill]

>> Very lucrative

Whiskey’s for drinkin’ - water’s for fightin’ over.

Yep.

[LomanBill]

>>The only sale they intend on having will
>>be to sell the legitimate citizens out.

Seems they’d prefer it if everyone was a renter... except them.

Hmmmm...

“COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM”
—Thomas Jefferson

[LomanBill]

1. How much tax revenue would those properties generate if they were privately owned?

2. Doesn’t this manifest an unfair competitive disadvantage for legitimate, private, rental property owners... who have to pay taxes and pass that CODB down?

3. If it’s legitimate for government to buy up profitable property/business - at what point does Colorado Springs become a Soviet Enterprise?

“Profitable Government”? Ronald Reagan must be rolling in his grave at the mere utterance of the idea.

[CIDKauf]

Get into the real world. Read “Money Mountain” and learn our history. We are not Chicago!

[LomanBill]

Yes the history of Cripple Creek is quite fascinating.

Especially the intricacies of claim ownership and the various syndicates involved in the legal wrangling thereof.

I have a photo, in archives, of a crypt in Crown-Hill cemetery bearing the name of a certain relevant judge who was apparently fascinated, like many at that time, by Egyptian mythology.

Been up to Money Mountain lately? It's more like Money huge hole in the ground where Mountain used to be...



Cleverly hidden from (green) Cripple Creek Tourists view, I observe ;-}

Not even owned by an American company anymore - but Anglo Gold Ashanti - part of the conglomerate extending from the Architect of Apartheid, Cecil Rhodes.

I do find the story of Mr. Stratton admirable, even if a little hard to believe in parts.

[CIDKauf]

What a great pic. I’ll have to make time to go see it! The snow really shows the benches going down.

[CIDKauf]

Wow! My memory isn’t as good as I thought it was. Dan’s bake sale (you were absolutely right) started to help Dan pay for a subscription to the Limbaugh Letter- $29.95 at the time, because his wife wouldn’t let him have it. My reference to government spending was on the heels of Clinton’s election as President and was a result of the aftermath of the idea that Rush could provide a platform using his audience! May 24, 1993 seen here (RushLimbaugh.com)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080108/content/01125114.guest.html
Notice the video link at the bottom of the page.

[LomanBill]

>>What a great pic.
>>I’ll have to make time to go see it!
>>The snow really shows the benches going down.

Thanks. The snow does help bring out the detail - but there’s nothing to give a proper sense of scale and how big the mine is.

They literally moved the mountain. Pretty amazing.

[LomanBill]

>>pay for a subscription to the Limbaugh Letter-
>> $29.95 at the time, because his wife wouldn’t
>>let him have it.

Hah. That’s funny.

I wonder where Dan is today?

>>Notice the video link at the bottom of the page

Too bad the link is subscription only.