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Obama Birth Issue - STILL Questions: U.S. Federal District Court Justice heard arguments...
Gather News ^ | October 20, 2009

Posted on 10/20/2009 3:00:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Judge raised issues critical to our case:

1. Did Senators question the eligibility of Mr. Obama? (Only Senators Coburn and Shelby and a number of House members.)

2. Were objections made by Members of Congress when the vote of the Electoral College was certified? (NO, then Vice-President Cheney had not performed his required duty of asking for objections, so there could have been none raised.)

The 20th Amendment to the Constitution* clearly anticipates the possibility that the President-elect might not be eligible. The only way one gets to be President-elect is by skating past all those folks the judge is asking about.

ML/NJ


*Article. [XX.]
[Proposed 1932; Ratified 1933]

Section. 1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

Section. 2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

Section. 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Section. 4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

Section. 5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

Section. 6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.

41 posted on 10/20/2009 4:34:13 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"Don’t you grow weary"

Sure do! Of people like you. What's your point? Just practicing typing?

42 posted on 10/20/2009 4:35:19 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: mlo

no one, thats why he is fighting. I was hoping a this point he would of already been removed.


43 posted on 10/20/2009 4:36:37 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: mlo

no one, thats why he is fighting. I was hoping a this point he would of already been removed.


44 posted on 10/20/2009 4:36:53 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: mlo
"Well, we have seen the birth certificate."

You have? Where?

45 posted on 10/20/2009 4:37:43 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: opentalk

He’s not “fighting”. Lawyers are filing responses to lawsuits that he didn’t start. That’s the way it works.


46 posted on 10/20/2009 4:39:27 PM PDT by mlo
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Don’t you grow weary of the Orly Taitz freak show?

Actually, yes I do. I wish the lawyers from the ACLJ, Thomas Moore, or Landmark Legal or some top notch lawyer like Ted Olson would have led the charge. But alas, the people who stepped up to fight were not the GOP lawyers, by and large. Ted's too busy pushing gay marriage anyway these days.

Don’t you grow weary of being strung along by the ridiculous promises? (”I can have Obama out of office in 30 days!” Her time was up on Oct. 12th, BTW)

Can't speak for others, but I haven't felt strung along by Taitz' boasting and misplaced ego. I'm firmly in the camp of I'll believe it when I see it.

Don’t you grow weary of reading one interpretation of events and finding out later that it didn’t really happen that way?

Yes. When I read Taitz' version of events, then read Rachel Maddow's house boy David Weigel's, I always figger the truth lies somewhere in between.

Don’t you grow weary of having your hopes raised only to have them dashed?

The only hope I have, the only goal I find worthy, is getting to the truth of Obama's hidden past. It may take a couple more years, but the marxist's fraudulence regarding his birth circumstances will be exposed.

Don’t you grow weary of the incompetence and unprofessionalism?

What more can you expect from a lawyer who has never practiced before? She was a dentist and an activist, for crap's sake, from the former USSR, no less. However, you will note that there are other suits in the hopper besides Taitz's. Kreep is planning 9 more. I believe Donofrio, Berg, and Appuzzo all have upcoming hearings. I'm sure there are others as well.

Don’t you grow weary of group think?

Yes, I grow very tired of the group think of Obama trolls and their erstwhile GOP allies that have the imaginations to believe that a lying un-american, chicago communist who is a known serial liar, who had Bill Ayers write his book for him, who can't or won't release his records, who was as recently as 1999 a crack whore, whose associates are either jailbirds or rank marxists, who used ACORN to cheat for him during the campaign, and who has yet to demonstrate to anyone that he is an NBC, is somehow deserving of the benefit of the doubt; and the patriots who have entered to the arena to expose him are the ones to be ridiculed.

47 posted on 10/20/2009 4:41:24 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ml/nj
"The 20th Amendment to the Constitution* clearly anticipates the possibility that the President-elect might not be eligible."

That's correct. But any such questions are resolved and he stops being the President-elect on Jan. 20. The Ammendment doesn't apply after that.

48 posted on 10/20/2009 4:42:54 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
That's not how it has worked with past presidents, they produced records when asked without a legal team.
49 posted on 10/20/2009 4:44:30 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: mlo
I'm not so sure. If he isn't eligible to be President then he cannot be President so one could argue that he never stopped being President-elect. This is why we have courts and judges.

ML/NJ

50 posted on 10/20/2009 4:47:08 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: mlo

Only on your Obama fantasy island.


51 posted on 10/20/2009 4:47:23 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seems there are folks posting that don’t care about law or the US Constitution, supreme law!? What kind of patriot would hinder determining if someone was fraudulently made POTUS? What kind of American would hinder those working to uncover such a fraud? USA has fallen from a republic of laws to a democracy of small majorities helping law be ignored. Real Americans are fighting to restore proper law and a government operating accord to it’s founding charters.
52 posted on 10/20/2009 4:47:50 PM PDT by veracious
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To: El Sordo
What’s up with Judge Carter? Did I miss something? Did he ever come up with a decision?

Not yet.

53 posted on 10/20/2009 4:50:30 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: opentalk

“That’s not how it has worked with past presidents, they produced records when asked without a legal team.”

Uhhh...

You remember the Clinton years, right?


54 posted on 10/20/2009 4:57:48 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

Yeah, you missed that he has been forced to hire a law clerk to tell him how to rule and write the opinion for him.


55 posted on 10/20/2009 4:57:59 PM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Is there any kind requirement or tradition for a judge to issue a decision on a “timely basis”?


56 posted on 10/20/2009 5:01:05 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: BuckeyeTexan

No.


57 posted on 10/20/2009 5:06:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: kukaniloko
What makes you thinks he was forced to that hiring decision or that he will be taking direction from the clerk in that manner?
58 posted on 10/20/2009 5:07:31 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: ml/nj
If he isn't eligible to be President then he cannot be President so one could argue that he never stopped being President-elect.

If he isn't eligible to be president then how can he be eligible to be president-elect?

59 posted on 10/20/2009 5:07:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: opentalk
"That's not how it has worked with past presidents, they produced records when asked without a legal team."

In fact, there's a history of presidents not releasing personal information. It's not new. Besides, what other president's birth certificate have you seen?

60 posted on 10/20/2009 5:09:18 PM PDT by mlo
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