Posted on 10/20/2009 3:00:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Many are STILL discussing the birth issue surrounding President Obama. This apparently is not going away, anytime soon.
Received this email yesterday from the United States Justice Foundation, a non-profit organization. You will read some of the arguments made before this court, by the DOJ and the USJF.
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From The Desk Of Gary G. Kreep, United States Justice Foundation.
Barack Obama is sweating it out after his Department of Justice ("DOJ") attorneys walked into court expecting United States Federal District Court Judge David Carter to dismiss the birth certificate case. Why you ask? Simply because they "think" Obama is President. Their arguments were hollow and unconvincing. and after hearing hours of argument, the Judge Carter "took the matter under submission." He has still not issued a ruling, 10 days later!
Is The President Above The Law and the Courts?
DOJ attorneys tried to explain to the Judge that no Court in the United States had the jurisdiction to rule on whether Barack Hussein Obama was eligible to serve as President of the United States? In their view he could only be impeached and/or disqualified from the Office of President under the 25th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution.
NOT TRUE! USJF pointed out to the Court that both the impeachment statutes, and the 25th Amendment required a sitting President, but if Mr. Obama is not eligible to serve as President, he could not be, and never was, a sitting President, so those options for removal could not apply. Therefore the courts would have jurisdiction.
Monday, October 5, 2009, , at 8:30 a.m., in California, was a critical milestone for our entire legal and public relations effort to force Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate and to prove whether he is eligible to serve as President of the United States. And with your support USJF was able to be there to argue the case.
The case has an excellent chance to survive the Department of Justice ("DOJ") motion to dismiss what has proven to be the best chance for America to have a hearing on the merits of this critical Constitutional issue.
What happened that day in Court? It's very simple—the DOJ attorneys brought up every argument that they could to try to persuade the Court to dismiss this case USJF provided sound legal arguments against the DOJ legal theories; otherwise the whole case could have been over right then and there! The USJF oral arguments will be the difference between this case surviving or being dismissed.
The Judge raised issues critical to our case:
1. Did Senators question the eligibility of Mr. Obama? (Only Senators Coburn and Shelby and a number of House members.)
2. Were objections made by Members of Congress when the vote of the Electoral College was certified? (NO, then Vice-President Cheney had not performed his required duty of asking for objections, so there could have been none raised.)
DOJ attorneys argued that only Congress, and/or the Electoral College, could decide on the eligibility of Mr. Obama. Fortunately, the USJF legal team filed pleadings pointing out that the DOJ legal arguments in this regard WERE WRONG! And, I was there to argue against those claims.
People at the hearing and those who have found out what happened there since have been contacting USJF, thanking us for standing up for the truth!
But the fight is not over yet! We expect a ruling from the Court any day now. If we defeat the dismissal motion, then we're immediately filing pleadings ("discovery") seeking Mr. Obama's birth certificate, his college records, and so much more. AND, we'll be seeking to depose Mr. Obama ASAP!
And if the Court grants the motion to dismiss, we'll be immediately filing an appeal of the decision!
But we can only do this if we have your financial support!
Judge Carter has set a trial date of January 26, 2010 in this case. To keep that date, we need to defeat the DOJ dismissal motion, and then, IMMEDIATELY, move right into the discovery phase discussed above. BUT THAT WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE WILL NEED TO:
* Retain attorneys in Washington, D. C., to take the Obama deposition.
* Retain attorneys in Hawaii to take the deposition of those in control of the Obama birth records and school records.
* Take the deposition of Occidental, College officials to obtain Obama school records.
* We will have to retain attorneys in Massachusetts to take the deposition of Harvard. Law School officials to obtain Obama school records.
* Pay the cost of the court reporters for all of these depositions. Plus,
* Pay the cost of serving the subpoenas on the various witnesses.
We expect the DOJ, as well as Mr. Obama's private attorneys, to fight us every step of the way! Obama attorneys will file motions to block the depositions in each and every state, and the District of Columbia by the Obama defense team!
WE WILL NEED MORE HELP TO:
Question the issue of the passport files of Mr. Obama! We're going to be going after the records of how he traveled abroad without a United States Passport in the 1980's, as he admits doing.
Question the issue of his alleged adoption by his step-father in Indonesia! We'll be seeking records about that also!
Resolve questions about his Selective Service files!
We'll be seeking records concerning that also! But, first, we have to get past the DOJ dismissal motion!
The DOJ's motion to dismiss also claims that our clients have no "standing," that the Federal Court does not have "jurisdiction" to hear this case, and that the matter is "political."
But, if we as citizens of the United States have no "standing" to verify the citizenship of the man occupying the White House, who does?
If our Federal Courts have no jurisdiction to hear this case, who does? It's not a "political" question, it's a CONSTITUTIONAL question!
Last November, people said we were crazy to pursue this issue. Now, we've been shown to be right in our pursuit of the truth. It's not just the original birth certificate that they're refusing to release. Barack Obama's legal team has spent, according to published reports, over $1.4 million dollars so far to STOP anyone from seeing ANY of his actual identification documents, and many other documents.
WHAT is Barack Obama trying to hide? WHAT is he afraid of? WHY doesn't he just release these documents to prove he is a natural-born citizen and therefore qualified to be president -- especially his actual birth certificate?
When Barack Obama officially entered the office of President, he became, in essence, a "pretender to the throne." According to the Constitution, only a "natural born citizen" can occupy the presidency.
Even though he was sworn in on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama is NOT legally the President of the United States, unless he can prove that he is a "natural born citizen."
What's more, every action taken by him while he occupies the White House may be invalid. If he cannot legally be President, every law passed by Congress will be null and void because the Constitution clearly requires that all laws be signed by the President... and, without a legally elected and sworn in President in office, that becomes an impossibility.
This crisis must be ended! And it must be ended NOW! HELP US MAKE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PROVE IF HE IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
And that's just what we're fighting to do. The United States Justice Foundation is spearheading a campaign to protect the United States Constitution... and your liberty.
We have to press our case to stop Barack Obama from, apparently, illegally holding the Presidency, despite the ongoing threats against us. We are speaking of filing additional lawsuits and administrative actions, over and above the dozens already filed, if you will help us today.
Are you willing to see the Constitution shredded by the Left? Will you sit back and do nothing while a foreign-born person may be illegally occupying the White House as President of the United States?
Our country is on the fast track to disaster... but you can help us keep the situation from getting worse. I pray that I'll hear from you today.
Sincerely, Gary Kreep, Executive Director United States Justice Foundation
P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen… IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!
America has never before faced such a threat. Everything we hold dear is at risk with Barack Obama sitting as President without him releasing his actual birth certificate, plus the dozens of other documents that he refuses to produce.
Please remember that we are fighting in the California Appellate Court system.
Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!
Ping to article suggesting that DOJ argument is incorrect regarding the court’s lack of jurisdiction.
What has Oily Tights been up to?
But wait! There's more!
Contribute now and we'll throw in this lovely Ginsu knife....
Gotta get all the bucks in that they can just in case Judge Carter grants the motion to dismiss.
I need to start my own Birther crusade. They'll believe anything and it seems to be quite lucrative.
They’re doing God’s work, to be sure.
Each time I read a thread about this topic, I feel like I am in the middle of the “Peter Pan” movie. “If you believe clap your hands. Don’t let Taitz die!!”
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.
Don’t you grow weary of sucking up to the trolls and Obama kneepadders here?
Ping!
Raising coin to pay that $20,000.00 fine.
Don’t you grow weary of the Orly Taitz freak show?
Don’t you grow weary of being strung along by the ridiculous promises? (”I can have Obama out of office in 30 days!” Her time was up on Oct. 12th, BTW)
Don’t you grow weary of reading one interpretation of events and finding out later that it didn’t really happen that way?
Don’t you grow weary of having your hopes raised only to have them dashed?
Don’t you grow weary of the incompetence and unprofessionalism?
Don’t you grow weary of group think?
With all the fun made of birthers, and the lawyers, I’m just outside the circus wondering to myself why we haven’t seen the birth certificate. For whatever reason.
Exactly.
Orly didn’t come out and call it this, (probably because she doesn’t know what one is) but she arguing that Obama and election is a “nullity.” However, even if he were ineligible, this isn’t necessarily a nullity. I like the impeachment argument and think this is how Carter will rule.
parsy, who wonders what Orly is upto???
Well, we have seen the birth certificate. But birthers don’t accept it.
Obama has no incentive to provide any other documentation. Why would he? The birthers are doing his ground work, providing the broad brush used to tarnish all conservatives. The best thing that could happen to him is that Orly keeps filing lawsuits for the next three years. Of course she’ll probably get disbarred before then, but he can dream.
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