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CAN EVOLUTION PRODUCE AN EYE? Evolution vs. Creation
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 1/1/94 | Dr. David N. Menton, Ph.D.

Posted on 10/29/2009 7:00:32 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

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To: count-your-change
Regressive Evolution in the Mexican Cave Tetra, Astyanax mexicanus Current Biology, Volume 17, Issue 5, Pages 452-454 M. Protas, M. Conrad, J. Gross, C. Tabin, R. Borowsky

Arguments against a role for selection in the regression of cave-fish eyes cited the insignificant cost of their development, but we argue that the energetic cost of their maintenance is sufficiently high for eyes to be detrimental in the cave environment.

61 posted on 10/30/2009 12:11:02 PM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
Again you don't read or understand your own posts.

“Third, the manner of eye degeneration in Astyanax cavefish does not appear to be economical. Instead of undergoing eye loss at a very early stage, the cavefish eye develops to a relatively mature stage prior to the beginning of degeneration, presumably at high energetic cost.”

(See the effect of lens transplant.)

62 posted on 10/30/2009 12:30:34 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: BlueDragon

She got all of that one! .lol


63 posted on 10/30/2009 3:00:20 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: tacticalogic
My Friend, Almighty God can do any thing... but He choose to created by His word and that was it... Genesis 1-2, John 1:3, Heb 1:2 That's too simple for people. either we believe God and His Word or we Do not. I choose to Believe!! I was raised an evolutionist so I am not ignorant about the Evolutionist position. Free to choose..
64 posted on 10/30/2009 3:06:50 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks. I’m not sure what a ping list is? Is it a group? Put me one if it is.
Thanks


65 posted on 10/30/2009 3:08:28 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

He can indeed do anything. You chose to believe the literal account of Creation from the Book of Genesis, and you chose to declare that anyone who does not cannot believe in God.


66 posted on 10/30/2009 3:12:02 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: stormer

My friend you produced theories...

I know the evolution position. Born and raised with it. Evolution and variation of a kind are to different things. The development of a thing is not an evolutionary product. I believe all Dogs and all species, trees etc.. came from two dogs that were created on day 6. The variety in the gene pool at the beginning was plush and vast. Evolution states that something of one kind become another. The big mistake that abc evolutionist have (not saying that is you) is that they mistake variations of a kind with what evolution truly means.. much like Catholics do with the Immaculate conception.

I..by Faith choose to believe God and His Word about what came first (chicken or the egg)...the chicken.
If He used evolution.. He would have told us. That my come across as a simple minded answer but I choose to believe Almighty God and His Word. Evolution is just a theory and it takes greater faith to believe it then to believe almighty god and His Woed. Check out the DVD link Then you might see it my freind. I have weighed it out and became a Creationist and that doesn’t mean i throw out all nature laws of Science that the creator God created for this tangible realm. I made my choice. (Roman 1:18-32, 1 Cor 1:18-30)

All the best.. Dave


67 posted on 10/30/2009 3:28:15 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Yes it is, and yes you’re on. Welcome aboard the HMS Creation! Go up to the keyword box in the upper right hand side of FR and type in the word “creation” to see what you’ve been missing :o)

All the best to you and yours—GGG


68 posted on 10/30/2009 3:59:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tacticalogic; GodGunsGuts; metmom

So, based on this article, you’re prepared to assert that God could not have created life with the ability to evolve an eye.


Strawman of course.

Best anwered with:

Is this same God incapable of revealing Himself and telling the truth through Judeo-Christian scripture?


69 posted on 10/30/2009 4:37:53 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther
Is this same God incapable of revealing Himself and telling the truth through Judeo-Christian scripture?

He reveals Himself in His Creation. Man reveals himself in what he claims God thinks.

70 posted on 10/30/2009 4:47:16 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: bray
Like THIS

Find another straw man.
71 posted on 10/30/2009 4:50:43 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Notice it’s the evolutionist liberals that squelch debate, hijack the law and use lawsuits to keep the cult of evolution afloat.

If it’s not strawmen, it’s endless endless projections.

Liberals project alot.

You’ll see liberals do virtually anything they can get away with on here...like anyone that disagrees with evolution is part of the Christian taliban.

They post this on 9-11-09 no less.

Liberals are also shameless.

And many of them labor under the delusion that they don’t stick out like sore thumbs here on FR.


72 posted on 10/30/2009 4:58:46 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: Kozak

What does that have to do w/the human eye or the ability to read? Try again, perhaps you can show that Disney movie? Some of us just don’t have enough Faith to believe in your science cult. You believe in Global Scamming too?

Pray for America’s Freedom


73 posted on 10/30/2009 5:06:30 PM PDT by bray (Silent No More)
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To: DavidAccord
You are right, I meant to say 4.5 -4.2 billion = 300 millions years ago .. approx.

Ahhhhh but what's a few 100 million years! LOL!

74 posted on 10/30/2009 5:09:47 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: DavidAccord

The only way we progressed to humans is that the world is not perfect. If it were perfect, the amoeba would have never morphed into anything else.

And if the world were perfect, who would need to buy paper towels for spills?


Well, you have to make the exception of evos understanding of origins and so forth.

There’s simply no room for errors. Let alone getting it all wrong.


75 posted on 10/30/2009 5:10:25 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: bray

that wasn’t the question.


76 posted on 10/30/2009 5:12:18 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak

Never is is it? What difference does it matter, you believe and we don’t. Humpty Darwin took a great fall...

Pray for America and Our Troops


77 posted on 10/30/2009 5:14:52 PM PDT by bray (Silent No More)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Part of your name really fits.
It’s ALL evolution. the only difference is time. Do we have to take a fossil and beat you over the head with it for you to get that simple fact.

As others have said, if they are different, what is teh stop button. Is it like the easy button from Staples??


78 posted on 10/30/2009 5:18:26 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: tacticalogic

He reveals Himself in His Creation. Man reveals himself in what he claims God thinks.


You, being man, I assume you will at least acknowledge you’re human, just negated your own argument.

It’s as imperfect as anyone elses’ and everyone has an opinion.

But the question was and remains:

Is this same God incapable of revealing Himself and telling the truth through Judeo-Christian scripture?

(See, we already knew what your opinion was a long long time ago.)


79 posted on 10/30/2009 5:21:28 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

Ask it all you want.


80 posted on 10/30/2009 5:36:44 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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