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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Liberal fascism?

There is not, nor ever has been, any kind of fascism other than liberal fascism.

The Nazis weren’t called National Socialists for the hell of it. They were socialists. That is what Fascism is. Socialism.


4 posted on 11/10/2009 9:03:54 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra
The Nazis weren’t called National Socialists for the hell of it. They were socialists. That is what Fascism is. Socialism.

It's good to repeat that the Nazis were essentially militaristic leftists (i.e., they wouldn't be so very welcome in today's leftist Pantheon, but would be tolerated if they brought their guns).

Thing is, fascism is not quite socialism. In socialism the government directly owns the means of production and takes the heat and/or credit when good or awful results ensue. That's a terrible way to run any kind of country, but it is at least relatively honest. No one is kidding anyone who's in charge.

In fascism, the government stays at one step's remove: dictating to the putative owners of the means of production what they can and cannot do, but leaving the blame and problems to them. This ends up looking like capitalism but isn't. We've had a fascist government in America for decades now.

Fascism is essentially socialism for cowards.

8 posted on 11/10/2009 9:34:48 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for Dear Leader to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: agere_contra
There is actually a big difference between socialism and fascism. The Mussolini fascists held socialists in great disdain because of the socialist emphasis on common ownership. Fascists don't see the people as capable of managing common ownership and the fascists don't want to share the control with the common people. The whole goal of fascism is to concentrate all the power in the elite governing party through control of both private industry and the common people.

The control of the people is managed by taking away the people's independence, making them totally dependent on the government for their daily needs. Control of industry is accomplished through control of the market and through a combination of threats and favors, exactly the way Obama is taking control of the health care industry.

11 posted on 11/10/2009 10:12:31 AM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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