Posted on 12/04/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Gordon Greene
“That is complete obfuscation. Are you are completely incapable of answering simple questions?”
Done with the both of you... by the way, are you and Buck still the same guy? You double-teamer, you.
“Nah... you should be conflicted for a whole host of other reasons. Now, how ‘bout giving us some of those “silly” terms you use for creationists? They’re so cute and endearing!”
I don’t insult creationists. That is an entirely consistent Christian view.
However, when you use “temple of darwin” or “Evo” that means you are actually advocating “creation science” and I mock you without mercy.
If you believe in “creation science”, you’ll believe in anything.
More of your public school education showing.... LOL
“You can’t say that the Nazi’s were Christians because of the name they bore. You just dissociated yourself from Catholics who support abortion as not being real Catholics. Likewise for those who called themselves Christians who participated in the Holocaust.’”
MM: Are there any Christians in hell?
“Please provide a link to the body of literature on the topic. Until that’s been provided, you’re a coward and a fraud.”
Something came back to me on the last natural law post... a remembrance from posts gone by of a certain couple of posters double-teaming a certain lady on this site...
I’d say the “we’re done” implies you are capable of speaking for Natural Law. That means you and he are either the same person as I said months ago or you’re lovers. Either way, you are the one(s) who are a fraud. Of course there’s always the possibility you are bi-polar and off your medication.
Until you answer this charge you’re a coward and a fraud!!! OK, I’m done with BuckWNaturalLaw. Who’s next?
“Ah so the Cretin method of respectful debate is to call people who believe in the theory of evolution idiots. Got it.”
If you play fair you’re not the intended target... believe me, those who are the intended target know who they are.
On the Biblical date of the Exodus: from http://ldolphin.org/Jericho.shtml
One major difficulty has been the lack of archaeological evidence from Egypt one way or another The pharaohs left long descriptions of themselves adorning temples and tombs but these were invariably self-serving and do not usually mention famines, disasters, or military defeats. The stele of Merneptah dated at 1220 BC does mention that the Hebrews were a people dwelling in the lands to the East at that time. The great funerary monuments of Egypt on the West bank of the Nile made of limestone date back to nearly 3000 BC but Egyptian cities and palaces made of mud brick were located in the flood plains and disappeared long ago.
The 1982 edition of The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia gives and excellent summary of the various pieces of evidence used in dating the time of the Exodus. In defense of the early date, the editors call attention to details now known about the lives of Thutmose I, Hatshepsut, Thutmose III, and Amenhotep II. Their fascinating scenario fits the date of 1450 BC as the year of the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt, coinciding with the death of Thutmose III presumably by drowning. E.W. Faulstich uses careful computer analysis of ancient calendars to arrive at Abib 15, 1461 B C as the exact date of the Exodus (See his History, Harmony and the Hebrew Kings, available from Chronology Books Box 3043, Spencer, Iowa 51301 ).
Jericho
Writing in the March/April 1990 issue of Biblical Archaeological Review Prof. Bryant G. Wood of the University of Toronto* has now dramatically reopened a door many thought was permanently shut. Wood has carefully gone over the available archaeological evidence about the world’s oldest city Jericho which lies 670 feet below sea level 5 miles north of the Dead Sea and 5 miles west of the River Jordan The Book of Joshua describes the entrance of the people of Israel into the land after the death of Moses and the destruction of Jericho as the first Canaanite stronghold overcome by the people of Yahweh.
Tell es-Sultan-—ancient Jericho-—lies next to the copious spring of Elisha (2 Kings 2:19-22). It is not an impressive tell but less than 1000 feet long by 500 feet wide The main highway to Galilee rudely cuts right across the eastern edge. British explorer Sir Charles Warren dug six vertical shafts into the tell in 1867-8 without reaching any important conclusions. An Austro-German team, Sellin and Watzinger excavated in 1907, 1908 and 1911 leaving careful drawings and plans of the site. John Garstang from England worked from 1930-36 at the site concluding that Jericho had come to an end by 1400 BC. But Garstang’s methods were crude by modern standards and British archaeologist Kathleen Kenyon undertook her definitive study between 1952 and 1958. She concluded that Jericho had in fact been destroyed at the end of the Middle Bronze Age about 1550 BC. The archaeological evidence showed (it was soon claimed) that there was no city for Joshua to conquer and indeed the biblical account could not be true-—it was only folklore and religious rhetoric. But Kenyon died in 1978 without publishing her results.
Professor Wood has now carefully examined Kenyon’s files as well as the work of her predecessors. He first noted that Garstang had recorded lots of Late Bronze pottery that Kenyon said did not exist at Jericho. It seems Kenyon had acquired lots of evidence but it had never been thoroughly analyzed. Wood carbon dated a piece of charcoal and found it came from 1410 plus or minus 40 years BC. He noted that Kenyon’s stratigraphy had artificially squeezed 20 separate phases into a mere 100 years. He observed that Garstang had found a continuous sequence of Egyptian scarabs at the site showing active use until about 1400 BC. Comparing the entire suite of archaeological evidence with the biblical record Wood has found that:
“Despite the fact that the area where the wall once stood is gone there is evidence incredible as it may seem that this wall came tumbling down and in the words of the Biblical account in Joshua ‘fell down flat.’ The pottery stratigraphic considerations, scarab data, and a Carbon-14 date all point to a destruction of the city around Late Bronze I, about 1400 B C “
Doubt you will - but lots more great Archaological confirmation of the Biblical record can be studied here.
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/
Never met him/her, but I wouldn't mind spending an afternoon or evening splitting a bottle ot two comparing notes on alum from the Bedrock Institute of Science and Theology that frequent these posts.
What incredible powers of deductive reasoning! Like all the creation rationalizers, you draw an entirely baseless conclusion merely to cover your tracks. You get to erect a strawman of indignation and leave my questions unanswered.
Yep—we’re through with the fraudulent coward GordonGreene.
GordonGreene is no Christian.
If you’re accusing me of anti-Catholic bigotry, you have just put your ignorance on full display for all to see.
You know nothing about me and how I was raised.
I haven't given Buck power of attorney, but I haven't objected to his/her comment. I do have to comment on your ignorance with respect to the Hallelujah Posse headed by GGG and comprised of a dozen or so "mental giants" (pardon the sarcasm) who go to great lengths to double, triple, quadruple and polydruple anyone who even suggests that Darwin and evolution are not Satan incarnate.
Please see #138 and respond.
I don't need to. Your body of work speaks for itself.
Now we can get into it with the atheistic regimes of the 20th century if you want to talk about less freedom and more death.
Show us anything positive that any God free form of government brought to the table and I'll raise it with a Constitution of the United States and Declaration of Independence that Christianity brought.
Don't forget either what great friends of science any atheistic regime is. Compared to say, Protestant Christian Europe and the United States for the last 500 years.
Tell me were the most freedom of thought, research, and technological progress has been made.
Sorry, the US is not a theocracy, so your argument is a strawman. Please stay on topic.
“Don’t forget either what great friends of science any atheistic regime is.”
Wow—what a loaded sentence! Does science cause athiesm, or does athiesm breed scientific thought?
Or do they just coexist?
And can either exist among Christians?
Tut tut. You all started it with the snarky comments about “evos”. Only fair the entirely fitting Cretin be bequeathed to the Creationists.
No, a Christian by definition, has been forgiven of his sins and has passed from death to life.
However, there are going to be a lot of people who call themselves Christians in hell.
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