Posted on 12/10/2009 4:24:15 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
Great insight, MortMan!!!
Here's something I'd just like to get off my chest: How "disciplined" can a science be if its very method is based on "mimicry"; i.e., computer simulation and modeling.
It is necessary for the designer of such a model to decide what are the relevant "ingredients" that need to be inside his "black box," which purports to be a trusty, reliable "mimic of" or "proxy for" the global climate system, upon which further experiments can be carried out. That such judgments are necessarily subjective ought to be obvious. And historically, science has not been comfortable with "subjectivity." Indeed, its mission was to stay as perfectly "objective" WRT the natural world as possible.
So RE: this travesty coming out of East Anglia's Climate Change Unit: What's in this black box? I've just been wondering whether, among other seemingly relevant things, considerations of solar activity ever made it into the mix....
I'd think it would be very good to take old Sol's own behavior into consideration as potentially relevant to issues of climate change. For the Sun is evidently a vast, plasmoid thermonuclear reactor of unimaginable power, and it's right in our own "backyard," so to speak. What is intriguing about the Sun is that it seems to have its own behavioral cycles, on many different timescales.
Certainly I consider it worthwhile to ask whether fluctuations of solar electromagnetic radiation affect global climate patterns. And if so, how.
So, what's inside Phil Jones' black box??? Enquiring minds want to know....
Thanks so much for your excellent post, MortMan!
The name is actually Holden.
But regardless, I doubt that you are he either.
And it’s interesting that you, knowing who you are, deny that you are the guy he’s talking about, and that NL, not knowing who you really are, keeps insisting that you are who he thinks you are.
So, he’s claiming that you’re a liar from all I can make of his posts, insisting that he’s right when he’s not.
Doesn’t even count for that much.
Spitting into the wind is more like it.
Re: Does Science Have a Magisterium? From Natural Law | 12/12/2009 8:43:30 AM PST readNL to GGG 12/7/09: “Listen up Teddy, you either back off or I will strip you naked in front of your little FR following and show them what a well established and long documented kook you really are and how your crack-pot theories themselves have “evolved” over time.”
GGG to NL 12/7/09: “Go ahead loser.”
Now, do you want me to post the entire email string with your threats?
Threats?? I mean, I've never had any freepmail contact with "Natural Law" prior to this and it seems obvious enough that his problems go well beyond any sort of a question of conduct on forums to say the least.
The question is though, have you guys actually been sitting around playing pull-the-dorks-tail on a day like this? I mean the next time you see weather like this might be next April.
He thinks you are me and I am you! What a dope.
That's what Trolls do. Troll does as Troll is.
NL, you have been.....
BUSTED
You might as well give up posting any responses because you have totally lost any credibility that you may have had remaining, having been exposed for lying as you were.
Are you really a scientist?
Do you actually practice science with the same level of meticulous attention to detail that you’ve displayed on this thread and others?
I have a lot of roles. Catholic, father, grandfather, veteran, scientist, in that order, are among them.
On the one hand, Ted "medved" Holden indeed could probably not resist trying to make a reappearance on FR. But, on the other hand, he could likewise probably not resist spewing his nuttier theories, e.g. about gravity. And I haven't noticed GGG ranting about gravity. Did I miss something?
Snort! Giggle.
Fizz up my nose. Pepsi Dry on my keyboard.
Its mute now, anyway.
Please don’t tell us you didn’t mean *moot* instead.....
Since GGG's account has been suspended I thought the pun was appropriate.
It has?
It was for a time earlier today.
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