Posted on 01/07/2010 9:51:07 AM PST by big black dog
My wife is employed at Walmart. She makes considerably more than minimum wage (though, not as much as she’s actually worth - but, then I work in public education and am not making what I’m worth either - in fact, this year I’m making nearly $1,400 a year less than I made last year.
If by “good service” you mean bringing me the correct items & ringing up my bill correctly, then yes, I want good service. By that standard, I also want good service at the dentist, the Wal-mart checkout line, the hardware store, and Taco Bell. And I don’t tip at any of those places.
I distinctly remember working an Easter Sunday in our party room and had a large group of about 30. They stayed my entire shift, and they also ran up one helluva bill. Our servers had the option to add the gratuity, but I rarely exercised that option. I found that I made more if I never added it to the bill.
One person picked up the tab, and when I brought the ticket, I informed him that the gratuity was NOT on the ticket. He got great service, and nothing was wrong with the food. I got $0 on the tip. So, therefore, I not only did not make $2.13 an hour, I made less than that b/c I was taxed on the ticket.
I always knew when I screwed up, and never expected anything if had done so. However, this guy's cheap ass ran me to death, took up my entire section during my shift, and made me lose money because of it.
Good point....how many people tip the people who clean hotel rooms?
That is a service that matters more than just handing over food, similar to the way a waiter does more than just give the food and leave.
Yet, I don’t know a single person that tips people who clean hotel rooms.
Why not? Don’t they deserve it just as much as waiters?
This is my point....tipping isn’t fairly determined. Some people really get the shaft even though they don’t make much either.
Good point....how many people tip the people who clean hotel rooms?
That is a service that matters more than just handing over food, similar to the way a waiter does more than just give the food and leave.
Yet, I don’t know a single person that tips people who clean hotel rooms.
Why not? Don’t they deserve it just as much as waiters?
This is my point....tipping isn’t fairly determined. Some people really get the shaft even though they don’t make much either.
Good point....how many people tip the people who clean hotel rooms?
That is a service that matters more than just handing over food, similar to the way a waiter does more than just give the food and leave.
Yet, I don’t know a single person that tips people who clean hotel rooms.
Why not? Don’t they deserve it just as much as waiters?
This is my point....tipping isn’t fairly determined. Some people really get the shaft even though they don’t make much either.
>>Whether one agrees with the practice of tipping, the fact remains that, in this country (and throughout most of the world) tipping wait staff is customary.<<
So is stopping at a red traffic light, even if it is four in the morning and you are the only car for miles. I violate that “custom” on a regular basis as well. As I age, I am leaving my “inner lemming” behind.
sorry for the multiple posts...internet hiccup.
I've always been told that if the service is really bad, you should leave pocket change -- just a few coins. That action conveys your message better than no tip.
What I really hate is that when paying for a meal with a big bill, the waitress returns with only big bills. Then you have to ask them to break a $20 in order to leave a tip. That is always done on purpose, and I'm certainly not leaving $20 for a $10 meal.
Because you are obviously not welcome. Why would any waiter want to wait on someone that doesn't provide a tip?
I do ... not sure about anybody else. I think several of guys I work with do.
>>Whoah there! I spend a LOT of time in hotel rooms. I have never, EVER tipped. Where did this come from?<<
I worked at a Hilton in college.
We got tips, you got extra towels, toiletries and most anything you asked for. I even left candy for kids who where there a while.
If you’re going to be in a hotel for more than a day, leave a note the first day with a buck or two. I ALWAYS leave a note stating that we don’t needs the beds changed for a week stay, a request for extra towels and a couple dollars. The maids will bend over backwards for you.
A tipped position is like a commissioned position, its merit based pay.. you do your job well you make more money, you do it lousy you make less. Works well and washes out lousy service because they won’t enought to keep working. This guy doesn’t want to tip its his right, but I’d ban his ass too. He’s welcome not to tip ever, but if he’s not tipping for no reason other than he doesn’t feel like it, I have no reason to have my staff waste time on him for his $20 tab once a week.
He wants his beer and no tip, wait your turn at the bar until you get served and walk back to your group afterward.
This sort of customer is going to be known to wait staff and having them waste their time on him for his couple of beers a week when the place is busy isn’t worth the time. I don’t need my wait staff angry or fighting over who is going to get the dud.
He’s welcome to just be cheap, for whatever reason he wants to be, and the owner has every right to say... don’t come back now.. ya hear?
A tipped position is like a commissioned position, its merit based pay.. you do your job well you make more money, you do it lousy you make less. Works well and washes out lousy service because they won’t enought to keep working. This guy doesn’t want to tip its his right, but I’d ban his ass too. He’s welcome not to tip ever, but if he’s not tipping for no reason other than he doesn’t feel like it, I have no reason to have my staff waste time on him for his $20 tab once a week.
He wants his beer and no tip, wait your turn at the bar until you get served and walk back to your group afterward.
This sort of customer is going to be known to wait staff and having them waste their time on him for his couple of beers a week when the place is busy isn’t worth the time. I don’t need my wait staff angry or fighting over who is going to get the dud.
He’s welcome to just be cheap, for whatever reason he wants to be, and the owner has every right to say... don’t come back now.. ya hear?
>>I have always found that people who say “waiters and bartenders make very good money”, have never worked as a waiter or bartender.<<
I’ve known several that DID and DO make very good money. They were also very good at their jobs. I’ve also known car salesmen that could barely get by and others that consistently earned more than $10k a month.
Did somebody tell you that life is "fair"?
If so, go punch him/her/it in the face ... they deserve it for lying to you.
Thank you! That is an outstanding summary. I enjoy finding wait staff that really knows how to make dinning enjoyable and I like tipping accordingly.
No, I asked if they got paid more than that entirely....meaning after tips.
Their real pay is not just the 2-3 bucks.
I can’t imagine any waiter not making at least $8 bucks an hour after tips.
Good for Murphy’s.
>>Yet, I don’t know a single person that tips people who clean hotel rooms.<<
I got more tips as a maid than I EVER did dishing ice cream.
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