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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
My dear friend you have to see things thru the window of dispensationalism. This section is talking about the people who survive the tribulation period who are unsaved. ...Also, the trumpet is not even mentioned in Matt 24.

Mathew 24:31--And he shall send his angles with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Sounds like a trumpet to me. His elect are the saved not the unsaved. Nowhere in Matthew 24 (or the other verses you cite) are the elect removed before the tribulation. There is one harvest.

All those "Left Behind" movies have left many with the mistaken impression that the elect will be removed before those days. Wishful thinking. Matthew 24:40,41 describe two working in a field where one is taken, the other is not. And two women at the mill, one is taken the other is not. Jesus says this will occur after the tribulation of those days. He describes no rapture before that time, an important event to not mention.

Matthew 24:21 says the tribulation will be unmistakable-- "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor everal shall be. And in Matthew 24:29 Jesus describes the day of Lord which will occur AFTER those days. If you're expecting a pre-tribulation rapture, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

20 posted on 01/24/2010 7:31:01 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting
True... that there is a trumpet... but not the Trump of an Arch Angel (1 Thes 4:15-17). There are also 7 trumpets in Revelation also... The elect are Israel. After the rapture of the Church.. God deals with the nation Israel so that in the end “All Israel will be saved (Rom 9:27).” Countless verses refer to Israel being regathered in the end to start off the 1000 year reign of Christ/Messiah.(Jer 23:5-8,Amos 9:14-15, Zech 14)

Where do you believe Israel’s place is in the future... They are God’s chief vehicle for the nations of the world?

21 posted on 01/24/2010 7:10:09 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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