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Could folks on FR give this video a "reality check"?
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Posted on 01/24/2010 6:55:58 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
Has anyone seen this video, and do you have any comments on its "validity?" If it is REAL, then we should be passing this one around quite a bit ... but I couldn't "confirm" the information and am being careful before I put it onto my own blog. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.
TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: healthcare
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
This is the bill as it was passed in the House so aspects of it are certainly to reappear if they go for reconciliation. The mandates are in the Senate version, nothing changed there.
What the video does is just put it in plain english, not lawyer legalese/gibberish to distract from its real truth.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:16:07 PM PST
by
patlin
(1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
To: ThePatriotsFlag
Make it easy for us - please give a summary of what it is about.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:17:00 PM PST
by
JimWayne
To: ThePatriotsFlag
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:17:32 PM PST
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
No idea, but i’m using this post as a bookmark to see what the pro’s on freerepublic have to say. If true, that made me almost literally sick.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:21:50 PM PST
by
Karliner
("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before."DDE)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:21:50 PM PST
by
XBob
(Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
It’s legit. Didn’t watch entirely because we’re packing for a trip, but everything I saw is dead on, and already aware of from multiple sources.
Great video, really well done.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:22:12 PM PST
by
WestwardHo
(Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
To: JimWayne
Jim, he basically does what you hear in the first minute or so, and I think our first response here might summarize it. He is putting the legalese into plain English ... but I was wondering if it was “valid” or “spin”. Hence my question.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:23:05 PM PST
by
ThePatriotsFlag
(http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
I’d urge you to do what I did when I got this link via email. Listen to it, then download the pdf file and cross-check what the video says vs. the bill.
I think the bill is a piece of socialist crap, but I can read, and what the video attempts to reduce to “plain talk” comes off as oversimplified and vague at best, and completely misleading at worst.
I agree with the author, read the bill. Educate yourself. Don’t let some Youtube video become your total knowledgebase.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:24:37 PM PST
by
bigbob
To: ThePatriotsFlag
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:27:36 PM PST
by
ElayneJ
To: ThePatriotsFlag
Just put it on your blog, it’s where all questionable material goes, so you’ll be in good company.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:30:06 PM PST
by
rabidralph
("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
I’ll be waiting for more comments too...
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:32:24 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(Happy Anniversary Barack! - - - Love, Massachusetts - - - FreeperGOPsterinMA)
To: JimWayne
“Make it easy for us - please give a summary of what it is about.”
It is an excellent u-tube summary of the HR 3200 demonrat house version of what we have all been protesting.
This is an amazing summary. It is designed to kill millions of americans, save all illegal aliens, and tax to death those that reamain, while driving all American doctors out of the doctoring business, and it is full of ‘death panels’, many more than Sarah Palin envisioned.
Run it, with caution, and don’t be near anything breakable
while doing so.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:34:45 PM PST
by
XBob
(Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
To: JimWayne
>"Make it easy for us - please give a summary of what it is about."It's about 10 mins of socialfascism.
I do believe 0b0z0 is trying to break Mao's murder record!
At the least he's taking on Billy Jeff stats for selling aids blood to Canada.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:35:22 PM PST
by
rawcatslyentist
(Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
To: GOPJ
You can see why I didn’t “post with haste” on this one. It does sort of make you sick to watch it. I tried matching up some of the text with the comments ... they seem to match, but I’m not an attorney and I do NOT understand the “legalese.” As I said to another person, too bad English is Congress’ “second language.” It would be nice if they’d put it in plain English. I’m going to watch for comments too ... so far most are sharing my original thoughts.
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:45:11 PM PST
by
ThePatriotsFlag
(http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
To: LadyPilgrim
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posted on
01/24/2010 7:53:58 PM PST
by
LadyPilgrim
((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
To: ThePatriotsFlag
I think that of the first three, he got the second one wrong. The limit of 5000 and 10000 dollars seem to refer to the cost-sharing which is the equivalent of co-pay from the patient. Yes, there will be a panel that decides what benefits we get. He is right on that. The bill is patronizing and ridiculous on this point - says we will be allowed to give input as part of the public input process and then they will decide on what benefits to give us! Imagine having to go to public meetings and speaking for 60 seconds before some clerk interrupts you and tells you that your time is up! This indignity while you go to beg your own healthcare benefits from some stupid clerks working for Pelosi.
Did not understand the language related to the first point in the video though. The bill definitely mentions the government intruding into the works of businesses, whether it translates to audit, I cannot say.
BTW, when I asked for a summary, I meant that I would have liked to know the general topic without even clicking on the link.
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posted on
01/24/2010 8:21:59 PM PST
by
JimWayne
To: patlin
Essentially, it is correct - though the bill that passed the House is somewhat changed from HR3200 as analyzed in the video (is is from August...).
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posted on
01/24/2010 8:22:57 PM PST
by
TheBattman
(They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
To: ThePatriotsFlag
It’s close enough to 100% to run with!
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posted on
01/24/2010 8:54:53 PM PST
by
SWAMPSNIPER
(THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
To: TheBattman
Yes, basically they are the same, only the way the words are arranged changed, lol. and all the niceties to those who paid dues to the ‘ONE’ aka opt outs.
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posted on
01/24/2010 9:19:40 PM PST
by
patlin
(1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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