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Abortion Is NOT Legal!
The American View ^ | 2-8-10

Posted on 02/08/2010 7:49:03 PM PST by kingattax

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To: DJ MacWoW
"However, once Roe is overturned or the Human Life Amendment is passed, those doctors and women who conspire to murder an unborn baby will be charged with murder."

Nope. They thought they were acting within the law. This won't fly.

So, you it is your view that once abortion is made illegal across the country that doctors who perform abortions and women who have abortions should not be charged with murder?

Wow, that is very troubling that you somehow believe that people should not be charged with murder for killing babies.

81 posted on 02/09/2010 12:59:37 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
You're such a liberal troll. Wanna discuss your original post or change the goal posts?

Your post 6: Don't forget to arrest every woman who has every had an abortion, their husbands, boyfriend, family members and friends that knew before the fact that the woman was going to have an abortion.

Your post 19: However, once Roe is overturned or the Human Life Amendment is passed, those doctors and women who conspire to murder an unborn baby will be charged with murder.

So which point do you want to debate? Actions while abortion is legal? Or if it's made illegal?

If it's legal, no one is arrested.

If it's illegal, it's against the law, right? Right.

82 posted on 02/09/2010 1:05:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

For some reason you left out my post 17 that read:

“Yes, I understand that the premise of this thread is false in that abortion is still legal in the US.”

And I stand by what I wrote in post 19 which read:

“However, once Roe is overturned or the Human Life Amendment is passed, those doctors and women who conspire to murder an unborn baby will be charged with murder.”

Again, the premise of the thread is false, but if were true and abortion had really been illegal all of these years, than yes all those parties I mentioned would need to be arrested for murder.


83 posted on 02/09/2010 1:12:17 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
than yes all those parties I mentioned would need to be arrested for murder.

Nope. It's called "acting in good faith". They relied on a court ruling. And I didn't see post 17.

84 posted on 02/09/2010 1:20:40 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Nope. It’s called “acting in good faith”.”

So now having an abortion, conducting an abortion or conspiring murder via abortion is “acting in good faith?”

Wow.


85 posted on 02/09/2010 1:33:42 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
You're very good at twisting, most liberals are, but you know that's not what I said.

If the law is changed, there will be no arrests as during the time Roe v Wade was in effect people thought it was legal.

86 posted on 02/09/2010 1:38:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes, I throughout this thread have said that the premise of the thread is false.

However, not knowing that an act is a violation of the law is not justification for committing such act.

So, you would agree that once Roe is overturned and or there is a Life Amendment passed, that the doctors that perform, the women that have and all that conspire with the doctor on woman to murder a child via abortion should be charged with murder?


87 posted on 02/09/2010 1:41:47 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

If Roe v Wade is overturned, it will then become a state issue as it was BEFORE Roe v Wade.


88 posted on 02/09/2010 1:50:50 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; trumandogz
If Roe v Wade is overturned, it will then become a state issue as it was BEFORE Roe v Wade.

That depends on what the actual decision and basis for it are.

While the most likely scenario would be to return it to the states, it is entirely possible that the Court could decide that the unborn are persons and as such enjoy full rights under the 14th Amendment. If this happens, states would not have the option of legalizing abortion for anything other than to save the life of the mother. A lot of it will depend on the actual case the Supreme Court has before them and what it addresses.

89 posted on 02/09/2010 1:54:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
A lot of it will depend on the actual case the Supreme Court has before them and what it addresses.

Thanks!

90 posted on 02/09/2010 2:10:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So, it is your state’s rights view that the State of Iowa could pass a law that permits someone to murder a four year old
child by chopping her into pieces,


91 posted on 02/09/2010 2:39:44 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
You can't find a better strawman than that?!

Have a nice evening.

92 posted on 02/09/2010 2:44:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
It is not a straw man for those of us that believe that a baby at three months gestation has just as much as a Right to Life as a three year old child.
93 posted on 02/09/2010 3:30:07 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Ditto. I am counting on the sonograms to slowly change hearts and minds. The prochoicers are losing the battle to keep babies “inhuman blobs of tissue.”


94 posted on 02/09/2010 5:51:44 PM PST by LussaO
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To: EternalVigilance
It isn't legitimately legalized.

It is treated as legal by governmental institutions in a way indistinguishable from anything rendered legal by a legitimate process.

95 posted on 02/09/2010 7:49:42 PM PST by Rich Knight
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To: Rich Knight

Well, it’s past time for us to return to legal sanity. Thousands more helpless children were slaughtered today, and the grisly process will go on again tomorrow.

And we can’t blame it on “institutions.” It is individuals that lead those institutions who are choosing to ignore their sworn oath to protect innocent human life.


96 posted on 02/09/2010 8:29:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Law is too important to be left to the lawyers.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I would like to see state legislatures stand up and say, “The Supreme Court never had the authority to over-ride state laws against abortion, and so we will pass and enforce laws against abortion in out state.”

That simple.


97 posted on 02/09/2010 8:49:12 PM PST by Rich Knight
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To: Rich Knight

Every branch, at every level, needs to step up and defend innocent human life.


98 posted on 02/09/2010 9:29:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Law is too important to be left to the lawyers.)
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