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Why Galileo was Wrong, Even Though He was Right
Darwin's God ^ | 03/07/2010 | Cornelius Hunter

Posted on 03/07/2010 11:42:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: shineon

That image is wrong and racist.

There were no lighter-skinned ape predecessors of men in the evolutionary model. White and Asian are human variations that appeared long long after homo sapiens sapiens was fully developed.


21 posted on 03/07/2010 12:35:43 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: RegulatorCountry
A man is here revealed who posesses the passionate will, the intelligence, and the courage to stand up as the representative of rational thinking against the host of those who, relying on the ignorance of the people and the indolence of teachers in priest's and scholar's garb, maintain and defend their positions of authority. His unusual literary gift enables him to address the educated men of his age in such clear and impressive language as to overcome the anthropocentric and mythical thinking of his contemporaries and to lead them back to an objective and causal attitude toward the cosmos, an attitude which had become lost to humanity with the decline of Greek culture.

Albert Einstein, in his foreword to Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, written at Princeton, 1952

... and what do you suppose he meant by THAT ?

22 posted on 03/07/2010 12:38:02 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: SeekAndFind

23 posted on 03/07/2010 12:38:22 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

There’s a great deal of racist assumption, in models of human evolution. So, it’s not surprising at all, that some old science book rendering would show the pinnacle of human evolution as a light haired European.

For an example you can start with the “Out Of Africa” theory. Basically, it says that the smart ones left.


24 posted on 03/07/2010 12:43:01 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: dr_lew

It means that Einstein was not looking when God performed His miracles, as if Einstein and all the other scientists could observe every quantum level event in the universe from its beginning and determine the natural cause of all. HA!


25 posted on 03/07/2010 12:44:20 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: RegulatorCountry
The planets known to the ancients represented musical notes.

Speaking of which.... all this talk about pre-Copernican attitudes about the center of the solar system must be understood from a comparison.

It is like the Victorian era. When they used to cover piano legs with skirts in the name of modesty.

The point was, it was a temporary thing. The ancients knew darn well what was the center of the solar system, and they knew 'before' Copernicus was even born the exact number of planets (including Pluto), and their 'maps' show the Sun as the center.

Most of the Earth centered conceptualism seems to have been borne from the early church, meant in a spiritual way, and then some 'lord' thought it would help his candidacy if he voted it into law.

Point is, it was not an 'original' belief of the past civilizations.

26 posted on 03/07/2010 12:44:32 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: shineon

OK. I’m the guy in the middle. I confess.


27 posted on 03/07/2010 12:47:08 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: dr_lew

Ptolemy was Greek, was he not, dr_lew?

Einstein was not Christian, and was not even especially Jewish, from a religious perspective; he was secular and best described as agnostic. He wasn’t seeking to validate any religion. Nor was he deliberately seeking to negate any religion. He took physics where it led, and upended numerous a priori orthodoxies along the way.

I do wonder, what Einstein would think of the gold-plated priesthood that has sprung up around certain aspects of politicized science, though. I suspect he’d be rather dismissive of them.


28 posted on 03/07/2010 12:49:34 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: UCANSEE2

What church held Ptolemy in thrall, UCANSEE2?


29 posted on 03/07/2010 12:51:10 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
White and Asian are human variations that appeared long long after homo sapiens sapiens was fully developed.

What's up with that 'asian' eye thing? Why did God decide to pull the eyes back like they had fishhooks in them? And he made the fishes and animals with the same eyes.

WHAZZUP WIT DAT?

And White people with barely any pigment at all. What's to keep the Sun from killing them?

Forced them to invent textile manufacturing, which needed energy and burned coal, which led to global warming, which....

SEE? WHAZZZUPWITDAT!!!

30 posted on 03/07/2010 12:55:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: RegulatorCountry
For an example you can start with the “Out Of Africa” theory. Basically, it says that the smart ones left.

Actually, light-skinned mutations were both forced to leave Africa, due to skin that burned easily in the tropical sun, and able to leave due to light skin that was more able to produce vitamin D from more oblique sun rays. At the same time, the out-migration was forced to adapt to many new environments while those left behind could continue as they had for 200,000 years. Adaptability selects for intelligence and changes the bell curve of the group but says nothing of individuals or potential. The future will select for intelligence in all groups, or it will be engineered, in the long run.
31 posted on 03/07/2010 12:55:56 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: dr_lew
... and what do you suppose he meant by THAT ?

That people were just being ignorant, for a while.

Happens all the time.

32 posted on 03/07/2010 12:57:22 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: SeekAndFind

Everyone’s models were wrong until Kepler, reluctantly, gave up on circles and suggested the planets follow ellipses.


33 posted on 03/07/2010 1:00:43 PM PST by DManA
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To: UCANSEE2
And White people with barely any pigment at all. What's to keep the Sun from killing them?

And Black people cannot survive at higher latitudes without supplementary Vitamin D produced naturally more efficiently in light skin, hence the global segregation over millennia.
34 posted on 03/07/2010 1:04:04 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Actually, light-skinned mutations were both forced to leave Africa, due to skin that burned easily in the tropical sun, and able to leave due to light skin that was more able to produce vitamin D from more oblique sun rays.

Oh, so it wasn't an example of adaptation via beneficial mutation, but rather more of an exile due to detrimental mutation, albeit one with a serendipitous outcome via chance migration to a more favorable geography?

Interesting.

Were other Arctic species white prior to their fortuitous relocation as well?

35 posted on 03/07/2010 1:05:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
And Black people cannot survive at higher latitudes without supplementary Vitamin D produced naturally more efficiently in light skin, hence the global segregation over millennia.

Now I know why I have never seen a black mountain climber on National Geographic.

36 posted on 03/07/2010 1:06:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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37 posted on 03/07/2010 1:07:38 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: DManA

Everyone, including Galileo and Copernicus believe that planets orbited in circles. Why? Because circles were believed to be “perfect”. Where did that superstition come from. Not Judeo-Christian theology.


38 posted on 03/07/2010 1:08:20 PM PST by DManA
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

So, humanity was at one point naturally segregated by skin tone and latitude, with the darkest pigmentation at the equator, and the lightest toward either pole?

Interesting.


39 posted on 03/07/2010 1:10:00 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

So, basically if you abstract your view to that level of graininess, you could also claim that Australia and England are neighbours.


40 posted on 03/07/2010 1:10:09 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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