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1 posted on 03/07/2010 11:42:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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ping


2 posted on 03/07/2010 11:45:13 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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Actually the earth, sun, and other planets orbit a common center of gravity that would lie somewhere betwen the center of the sun and the orbit of Mercury.

Its what causes the wobble that we’ve used to detect planets around some other stars.


3 posted on 03/07/2010 11:53:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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BTTT


4 posted on 03/07/2010 11:58:51 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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hahaha. pathetic.


5 posted on 03/07/2010 12:02:20 PM PST by warpsmith (Nauthannem i ned ol renainnen.)
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There have been knock-down, drag-out flame wars over this on FR.

Nobody seems willing to grasp what Einstein meant, in introducing his theory of General Relativity in The Evolution Of Physics, when he wrote:

"The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either CS could be used with equal justification. The two sentences, 'the sun is at rest and the earth moves,' or 'the sun moves and the earth is at rest,' would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS."

So, according to Einstein, geocentrism is not so much a matter of "right" or "wrong," but a point of view based upon a CS or coordinate system, and, according to him, the debate was rendered moot by General Relativity.

I expect the controversy will continue, though, because no one is willing to grasp the implications. It threatens too much orthodoxy, in which a powerful hierarchy is too thoroughly vested.

Sounds like history is repeating itself, but the shoe is on the other foot, lol.

6 posted on 03/07/2010 12:08:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Thanks for posting the article.


“Third, it was understood that science could devise models that, on the one hand fit the data but on the other hand were not true or approximately so.”


Gee, that sounds familiar.


7 posted on 03/07/2010 12:08:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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Galileo was right about the earth going around the sun but Galileo was wrong about earth not being the “center of the universe.”

Actually, everything, every atom, is at the center of its space-time continuum. Everything, no matter where it is, is the same distance in space and time from the edge of the universe defined as the “Big Bang.” Everything, therefore, is at the “center of the universe” at all times, including earth.


10 posted on 03/07/2010 12:17:22 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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23 posted on 03/07/2010 12:38:22 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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Everyone’s models were wrong until Kepler, reluctantly, gave up on circles and suggested the planets follow ellipses.


33 posted on 03/07/2010 1:00:43 PM PST by DManA
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

37 posted on 03/07/2010 1:07:38 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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They all got it wrong.
Barack Obama is the center of the universe.

Just ask him.


42 posted on 03/07/2010 1:13:36 PM PST by oldbill
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In fact geocentrism modeled the celestial motions quite accurately.

I've got to call BS on this one. There is NO WAY that observing Mars, Venus and Saturn rotating around the sun, could possibly fit any theory where they rotate around the earth. Absolutely no way. Uh uh. I don't buy it. No way.

63 posted on 03/07/2010 5:38:30 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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69 posted on 03/07/2010 9:46:08 PM PST by djf (Who says "The stuff of life" is not stuff? Mostly it's people who have the most stuff.)
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I am neither a catholic nor a fan of catholicism.

But all the caterwauling over Galileo and suppression of science by catholicism is rather ironic given that for approximately a thousand years it was largely the catholic church that preserved and advanced science.

Sure they suppressed some science because it was religiously unorthodox, but at least they have the excuse that religion was the primary focus and the whole science thing was just a lucrative diversion.

The secular priesthood of science we have today has no such excuse.

84 posted on 03/08/2010 6:08:54 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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