You think Bam is that smart? This is an African.
Posted on 03/08/2010 6:26:35 AM PST by patlin
That just means that the issue of child support, which was left open, "until further order of court" in the orignial divorce decree, was then closed. (Lolo didn't have to pay any, and had not supported them for the 6 years before the divorce.
It would also have been just over 3 months after Maya turned 18. (Her birthdate, Aug 15, 1970, is in the divorce papers.)
Okubo and her boss, Dr. Fukino and the registrar of records for Hawaii have all confirmed the legitimacy of Obama’s birth records.
When the St. Petersburg Times sent Janice Okubo a copy of the COLB that they received from the Obama campaign, she said, and I quote her: “Its a legitimate State of Hawaii birth certificate.”
Dr. Fukino has gone farther, declaring Barack Obama to be a “Natural Born American Citizen.”
The Factcheck COLB is irrelevant since the state of Hawaii has the official COLBs that would be used in any court proceeding.
As it says at the bottom of every state of Hawaii Certification of Live Birth: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
What COULD be legally relevant is the COLB that Obama’s campaign put up on the “Fight the Smears” website. That copy could be a forgery or fraudulent but no court of law has ruled on its authentity because no prosecutor has brought an indictment against Obama or his campaign for forgery or fraud.
His multiple layers of documented conspiracy have
NEVER
been a theory in my book.
Janice Okubo has, herself, made 2 statements which confirm that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery. You keep saying that she’s confirmed the authenticity. The fact is exactly the opposite: she has indirectly confirmed that the COLB is a forgery - not having note of the amendment as required by law, and containing an impossible combination of “date filed” and certificate number.
Stop saying the lies over and over. You’ve been caught at it many times. Why do you persist in saying these things?
When asked point-blank whether she has a duty to inform the public of a forgery, she said the law doesn’t allow her to disclose ANYTHING that’s on a birth certificate - which in context has to mean that she says she CAN’T say that a BC is a forgery. That’s why the admission had to come through indirect means. And through indirect statements she has confirmed that Factcheck is a forgery.
I notice that Okubo had no qualms about slandering the people who had enough persistence and honesty to keep an open mind until she actually gave the answers which told the truth about Obama’s records.
One of the reasons the Hawaii Ombudsman’s Office refused to investigate what the DOH was doing was because it involved potential crimes such as libel, perjury, and forgery.
It was typical in 1961 and its still typical today for persons from sub-Saharan Africa to list their race by a geographic location(ethnicity or nationality) rather than a skin color. Today it is more likely that they would put “Nigerian” or “Kenyan” but Kenya did not become an independent nation until 1963 and it did not become a republic until 1964. “Negro,” “African-American” or “Colored” can be offensive terms to persons from sub-Saharan Africa. They often prefer to differentiate themselves from black Americans.
There is no evidence BHO sr had anything to do with the information on the BC, fathers usually don't, the mother fills out the worksheet, or supplies the information to a clerk, in the hospital, or the maternal grandmother does. You really think Stanley Ann or Toot would have put "African". Stanley Ann, for all her faults, was an intellectual. She would have used the correct terminology, which in 1961, and really today as well, is "Negro", although the US Census uses "white" and "black".
I think the "sensistivity" came much later, say around 2007 in this case. Someone just couldn't bring themselves to put "negro" on the CoLB image. Because today, but not in 1961, that is a loaded word.
If anything, If BHO Sr did an input, I'd expect either Kenyan, since that was a place if not yet a country, or more likely "Luo", which of course is a tribe, not a race, but still African Colonials often still identified more with their tribe than their colony/nation. Their modern descendants often still do.
But I never indicated which items were important to determining Natural Born citizenship, until this post. I just pointed out that you were incorrect about what additional information was on the long form, and that you had once piece of information that *is* on the short form, race, as additional. Makes me wonder if you ever compared the two forms, or even looked at a long form from the era, (the one I checked to verify, was from the very next day, I don't think they changed the form from friday evening to saturday afternoon. (But likely the forms themselves would have been filled out during the following week, as their filing dates might indicate.)
I highly doubt KGB or SOROS could have access to place paper copies in 1991 on a flake like obama. Email and electronic files were not used then. More likely an US agency that had the power and know how to do it. (Something they would have access and repeated opportunity to do it. )
It's irrelevant IF it agrees with an Official COLB, or a certified copy of the long form. But if it does not, it's evidence of a massive fraudn upon the people of the United States.
If he was *their* flake, they would work with what existed. Maybe a nice "honey trap" on some less than attractive clerk in the DoH?
They really do/did things that way you know. At least most of my security briefs over the past 35+ years have said they did, in some cases citing specific cases and naming names.
You are citing two sources that have less credibility than you do. And that's quite low.
You are insinuating that you read Obama’s name in one of those briefings. If that is the case and you are not under oath then you should file an affidavit and post it on line.
You are citing two sources that have less credibility than you do. And that’s quite low.
Have a good evening.
It’s irrelevant IF it agrees with an Official COLB, or a certified copy of the long form. But if it does not, it’s evidence of a massive fraudn upon the people of the United States.
You can speculate whatever you like.
If Obama was trying to foist a fake COLB off as real, he certainly wouldn’t intentionally draw attention to the document by putting “African” where the word “Negro” would have attracted no attention at all.
You think Bam is that smart? This is an African.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2458720/posts?page=203
Here is what Politifact actually said about what Okubo said at the link you provided:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.
And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? “When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.”
Still, she acknowledges: “I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”
Barak Sr. was celebrated as the first African student at the University of Hawaii ... evidently he enjoyed this distinction. I don’t find it unlikely at all he would have identified himself as African rather than Negro. I met a guy from the Ivory Coast who told me he didn’t know he was a black man until he came to the United States. Likewise I could see SAD or Granny Dunham identifying as African for the same reason. Barak Sr. certainly wouldn’t have called himself an African-American as jamese777 suggested. He has to be part American first.
No, there isn't.
BO, however, claimed to have been born in a hospital.
Two of them, depending on when he was quoted.
This makes sense about the child support, although Lolo died the year before. Was wondering about his estate and then it kind of hit me ... maybe both his children were mentioned in his will. Anyone know how a person might find the last will and testament of Lolo Soetoro and if Barry Soetoro was listed as an heir??
No, there isn’t.
BO, however, claimed to have been born in a hospital.
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