[Westbrook]

> The problem is that the second law of thermodynamics and > evolution are pretty much incompatible

Imagine that.

Let’s see what loophole modern physics can provide for the evolutionist.

[Retired Greyhound]

Evolution has more incompatibilities than compatibilities.

[Moonman62]

The problem is that the second law of thermodynamics and evolution are pretty much incompatible, as EC explains...

How is the flow of heat incompatible with evolution?

[Pollster1]

No. The second law of thermodynamics and evolution are not in any way incompatible. Evolution is consistent with the 2nd law because energy is being added to the earth’s ecosystem, which allows a locally more complex system such as life to be added because the overall entropy (state of disorder) for the solar system as a whole increases. This particular aspect of science does not by itself refute evolution, but neither does it prove evolution. Evolution is consistent with other scientific theories; the question is whether the theory matches the facts.

[Hodar]

In simple terms, the second law is an expression of the fact that over time, ignoring the effects of self-gravity, differences in temperature, pressure, and chemical potential tend to even out in a physical system that is isolated from the outside world. Source

Thus, over time the universe should eventually become a homogenius mass of atoms - but that is not what we observe. We see that left on their own, atoms attract each other and form Nublae, stars, planets and moons. This seems to indicate that the universe seems to create order from chaos.

The same thing could be said about 'evolution'. No one would agrue that early reptiles had inferior circluatory systems compared to their modern equivalent. Each generation of sports stars exceeds records established just a few years prior. Go figure.

[goodusername]

Not only is the 2nd law of thermodynamics not incompatible with Darwinian evolution, it’s actually a necessary component.
No entropy = no mutations = no diversity = no natural selection = no Darwinian evolution.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

I'm not much of an Evolutionist but...

Dumb matter & energy breaking down to simpler forms - Entropy.

Conscious life working in an environment, making decisions to benefit it - Enthalpy.

Ridiculous argument.

[Young Werther]

I always thought that Evolution came from the “Big Boink!”

[ScaniaBoy]

EC has obviously never heard of Iliya Prigogine. There are other reasons to doubt or critizise neo-Darwinism, but this is not it.

[antiRepublicrat]

I thought the word went out long ago to stop using the 2nd Law argument against evolution because it just makes creationists look silly.

[Lazamataz]

Newton's Laws are incompatible with life.

After all, bodies at rest do not remain at rest.

Q.E.D.

[bunkerhill7]

"Latest Physics Theories May Help Challenge Evolution of String Bikinis"

(1) Gravity tends to pull down Warm Globes.

Just remember Einstein ate Fig Newtons and flew on Qantas while formulating the
(2) Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states that bodies cool down really fast after a real hot time, sometimes going into a sleepytime mode.

[ml/nj]

The problem is that the second law of thermodynamics and evolution are pretty much incompatibleThe problem is that the second law of thermodynamics and evolution are pretty much incompatible

Darwinian Evolution is an obvious crock.

But suggesting that we don't ever see signs of order arising from chaotic situations is equally fatuous. Take a look at a snowflake sometime.

ML/NJ

[allmendream]

PRESENTING, old used up arguments so stupid and even OTHER creationists warn you against using them lest you look like a fool.

According to the same idiotic criteria, LIFE ITSELF defies the second law of thermodynamics. Of course it doesn't, as there is a constant influx of energy from the Sun; and neither does evolution, for exactly the same reasons.