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A Day late or a Dollar short a felony? YES
LaDads ^ | April 2, 2010 | Dmal

Posted on 04/04/2010 1:48:44 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad

Having dedicated so much mental energy in examining SB 236, I have just now sat down and looked at SB 475. I am all for tougher child support laws, but gee wiz. Under the current law, you are deemed to have intentionally not paid your child support if:

1.Your were more than $5000 in arrears. 2.You had not paid in a year.

Under the new law…..it is just a crime to not pay regardless of how late you are or how much behind. Well, I’m confused….does this mean I will have been deemed to have committed a crime if I am say, one day late? Have I committed a crime if I am one dollar short ?…YES

I can discern the wisdom of the present law in the presumption that if you go late for more than one year, or if you are $5000 in arrears, then is it more likely than not that the intentional element to prove a crime exists.

I am a little tickled at the stupidity of making it a crime to be one day late or a dollar short. My child support is due on the first of each month and I send the payment in on the first…(because I get paid on the first). I suppose I will be a felon within two months since I am hyper-technically late each month by two or three days. And for all of you who do not know…you can’t pay DSS in advance…they will send you a refund. These are facts.

How many custodial parents pay their rent or mortgage exactly on the first of each month?

This proposed change to the law is a bit ridiculous. I will support tougher child support laws but not absurd ones.

I almost secretly hope the law passes just to witness the carnage at the District Attorney’s Office of custodial parents trying to have someone thrown in jail only to find out they misplaced the check. The non-custodial parent in the meantime would have been arrested and labeled a “dead-beat”. Sounds to me like this law is just simply designed to give leverage to the custodial parent and enable them to threaten the non-custodial parent with jail time virtually every month.

Do these Senators even bother to read Senator Quinn’s proposed legislation?

Why not just have a minimum payment provision to avoid the application of the criminal statute of say 50% of the child support obligation? In other words, keep the present law in place but add that “if such obligation has fallen below 50% of the total support obligation for one year or is greater than $5000“. …..I dreamed that up in 30 seconds…can’t our Senators spend a little mental energy and come up with something better than Senator Quinn's nonsense.


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To: Pikachu_Dad

I have seen it and certain women use the power of the court to support “their” self serving lifestyle.

No problem with money for the kids but when it’s not being spent responsibly towards their daily care, clothing, schooling and the end goal of developing their independence then the mother is wrong and yet there is no recourse for the man.

Most women use the money responsibly but the few that don’t seem to make the news with their pursuit of destroying the one person who can round out their responsibility and that is just unfortunate.

If I had children they would become the center of my world and I would give them whatever I could to give them an advantage.


21 posted on 04/04/2010 11:56:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; Pikachu_Dad

What kills us is never seeing him. For 3 years we saw him whenever we wanted. The night she threw my son out of the car during a rain storm ended all that.

She decided if our baby came to visit, she had to come too. We did not want her or her family there so that was that. I’m afraid our grandson has forgotten who we are. The pain my heart felt nearly killed me.

If my son has to prove he works, why doesn’t she ? She’s married now with another child and raising her husband’s other child. That’s 3 children. Since her husband got laid off she’s like a pit bull about those payments being there on time.

She gets the money, we get the finger.

Forget family court. Right now my son goes to school full time and works part time. What he misses in child support we make up. We cannot afford a lawyer to fight for any shared custody. He has a case worker but they don’t care. They only care when you don’t pay.

We’ve cried our last tears over this. One day he’ll see we always wanted him in our lives but she chose not to allow it.

She better hope she doesn’t die before he reaches legal age because we will get him and turn the tables on her family. They’ll get to see exactly what they put us through.

I’m sorry. This subject brings out the nasty part of me I don’t like. I miss my grandson. We had so many wonderful plans that have just gone away.

It’s so unfair. We’re good people, I cannot understand why this is happening.


22 posted on 04/05/2010 8:38:28 AM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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Something else I don’t understand. My son’s ex did not file for child support until our grandson was 5. She got mad because our son refused to sign away his parental rights when she found another sucker to marry her. She got pregnant after seeing him 2 months.

Every check he sent her before the order she tore up.

Why does my son have to pay child care costs for after school and holidays when she’s a stay at home mother ?

They tacked on another $300 for that alone.

We want our baby to have whatever he needs but there seems to be an unequal balance here.

He’s also being calculated for support from a job he had 2 years ago when he made good money. Right now, he makes little to no money. A reduction hearing was set in Dec. but we ended up paying almost $5000 to keep him out of jail. His next reduction hearing is April 15th. He was notified by mail stating he needed $1200 on that date or his license would be suspended and or 90 days in jail.

It’s hard not to get angry when this is going on. If we could be with our grandson sometimes it wouldn’t be so bad but we get nothing.


23 posted on 04/05/2010 9:09:47 AM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: 240B

Perhaps there is an element of truth in “life is a bitch and then you marry one.”


24 posted on 04/05/2010 9:19:55 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; All

Clearly what we have here is a runaway court system which by default declares the man GUILTY for every instance of divorce regardless of who initiates the divorce or the circumstances of the divorce.

These outrageous judgments are NOT in the ‘best interest of the child’.

How does destroying the father’s life and career benefit the child? How does suspending the father’s license and putting him in jail benefit the child?

I had a perfect record. I have never been arrested for anything my entire life. I had a credit score close to 800. A perfect citizen and member of the community.

Now I am on a kind of Sheriff’s probation. I am facing jail time, have a credit score of 300, suspended driver’s license and cannot get a new job. All because of a marriage and a lopsided runaway court system. I have done nothing to deserve any of this. It is not because of anything I ‘did’.

It was all just done ‘to’ me out of a clear blue sky.

How does any of this ‘benefit the child?’ How does destroying me help anything.

My ex, on the other hand, has no obligations or accountability of any kind whatsoever.

As I said, from her point of view it is all a dream come true. And, although she loves it, even she has expressed a little confusion.

Even she has indicated that the situation is way past her expectations and she did not expect either the overly generous bounty they have given her or the Jesus like flogging they are giving me.


25 posted on 04/05/2010 11:31:21 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he would'nt and not doing what he said he would)
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