Yet when requests were made for copies of e-mail requests and correspondence related to Obama's birth records and any subsequent amendments, the DOH replied that these documents were considered to be part of the vital records. IOW, they were saying that anything they wanted to consider sacred could be protected by calling it part of the vital records.
But, I agree wiht you that there are only birth, death, marriage and divorce records maintained by the DOH. When they changed their specificity from 'original birth record' in October 2008 to 'vital records' in the plural in July 2009, this was a direct admission by Fukino that the original birth record was insufficient by itself to prove the place of birth. Whether e-mails and newspaper articles are sufficient, I say, let's have full disclosure
Dr. Fukino is backed up in her verification by the further corroboration of Dr. Alvin T. Onaka, the Registrar of Vital Records for the state of Hawaii who also has reviewed the original Obama vital records. You may not like it, but that’s the way it is.
Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. only helped verify that an original birth certificate was on file, nothing more. THAT ... is the way it is.
Dr. Fukino has already released the Index Data record for Barack Hussein Obama II. It verifies that the state of Hawaii has a BIRTH RECORD for a male child named Barack Hussein Obama II. You can see it for yourself here:
Yet this doesn't confirm a place of birth nor does it preclude that amendments have been made to Obama's birth record ... and most importantly it does nothing to confirm that the whole of Obama's alleged COLB is genuine. Incidentally, up until at least 1990 the Index Data included the certificate number. In other states, the certificate number is still part of the birth index. Yet when faced with a slam-dunk proposition of confirming that the certificate number in the factlack photos is genuine, the DOH has balked. Wonder why.
That information is further corroborated by the two birth announcements for a male child born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama on August 4, 1961 which appeared in the Honolulu Star-Bulliten and the Honolulu Advertiser on August 13, 1961 and August 14, 1961.
Right, and those publication dates along with differing publication dates and lower numbers on the Nordyke twins' BCs helps corroborate that the certificate number on Obama's alleged COLB is fraudulent, but those same newspaper announcements do NOT corroborate a place of birth.
Those announcements came from the Health Department’s statistics and not from family or friends.
You're not telling the whole story. Without seeing an original birth certificate, we don't know who reported Obama's birth to the Health Department, so yes, that information, BY LAW, could have come from family or friends.
The point is that those trying to disqualify Obama at this late date have a very high legal mountain to climb. Obama is under no obligation to prove his eligibility, his opponents have to prove him to be ineligible: “presumption of innocence.” At the bottom of every Hawaii Certification of Live Birth it clearly states: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
Great point. A quick way Obama could resolve any doubts would be by entering his alleged COLB in a court of law to see if it passes scrutiny. The Kenyan chicken refuses and has made the HI DOH pick up and cover for his lazy, fraudulent ass. What kind of scum does that?? Do you know??
You poor dear! jamese777 is picking on everyone else because he got nowhere with me; I have too many facts at my disposal. Right on my blog.
For example, there never was a newspaper announcement. APFC said there was, on their site; well, actually, they admitted, they stole the image they posted of what looked like a newspaper birth announcement, which had no name of the publication, from a pro-Hillary blog! Indeed, you had to click on the image on the APFC site, to catch the original site was td! And, without any further investigation, they said, this proves, BO was born in HI. Then, in the Hollister case, WH Attorney Bob Bauer asked federal Judge Robertson to take judicial notice that APFC “noted” a contemporaneous newspaper birth announcement! Do you get this? Take notice an image only visible through a computer screen, unattributed, was “noted” by APFC? Can you spell HUBRIS? What do you suppose Mr. Bauer would have done with such notice that APFC said there was an image? Why, he could have turned that notice into the meme, there actually WAS a contemporaneous birth announcement. But there wasn’t. How do we know? Because APFC told us. And Bob Bauer told us, by not submitting an actual CONTEMPORANEOUS NEWSPAPER BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT. (Just read one citizen complaint of election fraud to state A’sG in applicable states, in the sidebar on my blog. It’s all spelled out.) http://jbjd.wordpress.com
The Certification Of Live Birth IS the official birth certificate of the state of Hawaii since 2001 and Obama’s been available for the entire world to see since June, 2008.
The St. Petersburg Times newspaper got a copy of that document and sent it back to the state of Hawaii to confirm its authenticity. Here is what they said when that occurred:
“When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.
‘It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,’ spokesman Janice Okubo told us.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
If any one orders their “birth certificate” from Hawaii, they get the exact same short form COLB that Obama has and the US Federal government accepts that document as official proof of birth. Obama will never need to show any other document to anyone in order to prove where he was born.
If it was possible to order a long form certificate, someone, anyone would have ordered their long form by now and received it from the state to prove Obama wrong.
NO ONE HAS!!!
The state of Hawaii has gone on the public record saying that Obama was born there.
If anyone wants to see Obama’s long form, let them find a prosecuting attorney to subpoena it.
NO ONE HAS!!!