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To: highlander_UW
We need to stop ANY LEGISLATION that includes more or new taxes.

We are being TAXED into family financial defeat and it HAS TO STOP.

It is NOT FAIR and it is WRONG HEADED!

Are we now not allowed to own ANYTHING that is not taxed to death?

For instance....did the AL GORE tax that he put on all telephones in order to buy every school computers, did that TAX ever get taken OFF OUR PHONE BILLS? Hell no.

Go and LOOK at your PHONE BILLS. Do you pay a cell phone tax, too? Here in Indiana we pay an almost SIX DOLLAR STATE TAX every month and a SIX DOLLAR FED TAX every month on a THIRTY DOLLAR PHONE BILL, land line, that we hardly ever use! (Had the long distance part taken off as the cell long distance, of course, is cheaper.)

WHY?

And why gasoline tax?

And PROPERTY TAXES that are never ending and feel like RENT MONEY when the mortgage is paid off...WHY do we have so MANY TAXES?

On food, on CLOTHES, on entertainment, on TV, on and on and on and on and on and on And NOW...they want to TAX internet usage?

Is there no relief?

If those ARSEHOLES in DC want more TAX money, tell them to STOP looking for ways to make it impossible for some of us to even afford a movie anymore and and tell them to start CUTTING OUT ALL OF THE HORRIFIC PROGRAMS THEY HAVE ENACTED TO ROB US OF OUR MONEY AND PUT US INTO DEBT.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MISUSED OUR MONEY. NOT US THEM!

SPENDING MORE THEN WE HAD WHEN WE TRUSTED THEM AND ELECTED THEM TO CONTROL OUR MONEY FOR DEFENSE AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND GOVERNMENTAL SALARIES (like theirs, that they happily raise at will) and natural DISASTERS.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT US INTO DEBT. Not us. THEM-----> living breathing men and women, ALL FOUR HUNDRED and THIRTY-FIVE in the House of Representatives and ALL ONE HUNDRED in the SENATE.

THEY PUT US INTO DEBT, in some cases, just ONE PARTY DID IT, like the DEMOCRATS voting in the COSTLY, HORRIFIC, FREEDOM KILLING of CHOICE HEALTH/DEATH BILL.

Damn it. NO MORE SPENDING. NOT ON DIME!!!!*( Or here is an idea-force every congressman to take a HUGE CUT in salary and benefits (ie make them all go on the health care death debacle they voted to lay on all of us...NO SPECIAL WAIVERS-lol) until they BALANCE THE BUDGET...which is their job.

Do not let them LEAVE DC until EVERY PROGRAM IS CUT that will allow the budget to balance out within a few years. MAKE THEM DO THE HARD WORK THEY ARE PAID TO DO SINCE THEY PUT US INTO THIS HORRIFIC ECONOMIC NIGHTMARE.

14 posted on 05/16/2010 9:16:16 AM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: Republic
Go and LOOK at your PHONE BILLS. Do you pay a cell phone tax, too? Here in Indiana we pay an almost SIX DOLLAR STATE TAX every month and a SIX DOLLAR FED TAX every month on a THIRTY DOLLAR PHONE BILL, land line, that we hardly ever use! (Had the long distance part taken off as the cell long distance, of course, is cheaper.)

I only use my phone for fairly short conversations...to make arrangements to meet and the like. I replaced my cell with a prepaid cell phone. I bought a phone that was unlinked to a service from New Egg and I just buy my minutes that I use. I use between $5 and $8 per month on minutes and I own my phone. As I recall, my phone cost about $75...prorate that over just 1 year and that's $6.25 per month...so my phone costs me between about $10 to 15 per month and that goes down after the first year. Given that the cheapest per month rate is about $30 to $40 it's much cheaper this way.

There may be charges in those minutes that gets siphoned away for taxes, although that is invisible to me because I just pay a flat fee for minutes.

16 posted on 05/16/2010 9:24:27 AM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: Republic
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MISUSED OUR MONEY. NOT US THEM!

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THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT US INTO DEBT. Not us. THEM-----> living breathing men and women, ALL FOUR HUNDRED and THIRTY-FIVE in the House of Representatives and ALL ONE HUNDRED in the SENATE.

While I am not happy with our elected "representatives," they would not have had the power to do any of that if it weren't for the parasite class of voters. There is obviously enough parasites out there to keep "them" in power. Likewise, there is obviously more than enough complicit voters that allowed the RINO Party to partcipate in the game and play "socialist lite."

You want someone to blame? It is your fellow American that voted these people in; rewarding them with donations and re-election. Politicians by their nature look out for whatever they can get away with. The American voter didn't complain enough when life was "grand" now did they? Of course not, because it was someone else footing the bill.

We have a government "for the people and OF the people." It is "WE THE PEOPLE" that are ultimately responsible for what our government does/not do. We are given the government we elect and deserve. If we do not hold them accountable, who is to blame? When you cede your rights and freedoms to your goernment, can you blame them for taking your rights and freedoms? How is it "theft" if you willingly gave it away?

It is your friend, family member, and neighbor that collects welfare, and WIC, and food stamps. It is that peson that has the "free" cellphone, "free school breakfast and lunch. It is that person that has subsidized housing, the useless government union job.

As with anything else, there is SUPPLY and DEMAND in politics. There would not be a SUPPLY of socialist spending programs without the DEMAND. There would not be pandering, wasteful, spineless politicians if there was not a DEMAND for them. These things cannot exist if there was accountability.

Peter will continue to get robbed until he defends himself. The problem comes when Peter pays more and more people. Eventually Paul, Tim, Joe, Mike, and Bill realize if Peter quits paying their free ride is over.... so the bully Peter. Peter should have stood up and put a quash on it when it was just Paul that was reaping the benefit.

None of this happens in a vaccuum. Americans need to realize that it is not our politicians to blame, but US. It is akin to saying "guns kill people," or an "SUV drove through a crowd." Someone is responsible for those actions.

It will continue to happen so long as taxpayers continue to pay taxes and fail to resist.....or the system will eventually tip too far and collapse.

Even if we tossed out EVERY LAST representative in federal state, and local government the problem would continue so long as you have not CHANGED THE MIND OF THE PEOPLE. Once the new batch realized they could pander and buy votes the process would repeat.

Even here on FR, you can find someone that will defend just about any wasteful program. It is ok to cut programs....just someone else's. Then, there are others [on here] that think cutting programs is "cruel."

24 posted on 05/16/2010 10:25:08 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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