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To: STARWISE

Amazing, isn’t it?

That some blockheaded dreamers actually believe
that our brave Founders, after having suffered,
bled, pledged, and in many cases, did lose lives,
families and fortunes .. and in some cases .. lost
ALL .. in fighting the greedy foreigners from Great
Britain for so many years .. would’ve so nonchalantly
excluded such a vital issue as allegiance to country
and national loyalty when considering the qualifications
for the office of chief executive of the country ?

Some people .....


The 14th Amendment, ratified in a different era and under very different circumstances altered the work of the Founders on allegiance just as the Founders were adamant that Senators not be directly elected and yet the 17th Amendment changed that.
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution moved the nation from reliance on “jus sanguinis” (right of citizenship by blood) to “jus soli” (right of citizenship by soil).

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
There is no exception in the 14th Amendment for presidents as being treated any differently than any other citizen. At least that has been the interpretation of the Supreme Court since the 19th Century.


43 posted on 06/15/2010 1:35:15 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777; Red Steel
Huff Post Jamese777
56 posted on 06/15/2010 2:01:32 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: jamese777

U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 1


58 posted on 06/15/2010 2:06:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, hunker down & go Galt)
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To: jamese777
The 14th amendment did not change the meaning of "natural born" citizen. It didn't even use the term.

Even before the 14th amendent was passed, white people born in the country were citizens at birth. But "all persons" were not. The 14th merely prohibited discrimination in citizenship matters. Some guy with an English or French citizen father and US mother, would not have been a natural born citizen. In fact he'd have been the very sort of person that the founders were trying to keep out of the office of President.

185 posted on 06/16/2010 12:26:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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